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JPG #89 Solved : 1940 Fiat 2800 Berlinetta by Touring
« on: February 28, 2011, 12:46:35 PM »
JPG #89 It's a mystery!

Make,coachbuilder and possibly the year for a point!

Extra info or pictures,another point  ;)


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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2011, 11:59:30 AM »
Professional time

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2011, 12:15:29 PM »
First question to narrow things down - is it European?

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2011, 12:17:56 PM »
Alfa Romeo?

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2011, 12:18:40 PM »
First question to narrow things down - is it European?

Yes.It's Italian,but not an Alfa Romeo...

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2011, 12:24:27 PM »
Isotta Fraschini?

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2011, 12:27:56 PM »
Bugatti?

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2011, 12:34:50 PM »
Lancia?

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2011, 12:37:11 PM »
1938 Lancia Astura, body by Farina?

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2011, 12:40:35 PM »
Isotta Fraschini?

Not an Isotta Fraschini,Bugatti,or Lancia ....and not a Stabilimenti Farina or Pininfarina body.

Take a look at the shape....

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2011, 12:56:56 PM »
Fiat 2800 with Touring body

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2011, 01:20:26 PM »
I would say Fiat and Touring as well, but rather a 1937 1500/6 Berlinetta. The engine doesn't seem to be that big...
« Last Edit: March 02, 2011, 01:23:39 PM by Allemano »

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2011, 01:23:37 PM »
Fiat 2800 with Touring body

Yes! It's a Fiat made by Touring.Now I need a proof that it's a 2800,and I need the year too.

Yes Allemano...I don't think so it's a 2800..they were produced between 1938 and 1944...(not the year that I have)
I believe it's a 1500 too...

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2011, 01:32:23 PM »
It probably is a 1500/6 from 1937.

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2011, 01:45:28 PM »
No,it's newer...look the rear window,it's smaller...

I'll add more pictures

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2011, 01:55:33 PM »
This one's from 1938:



It's hard to say something definite about the windows as the roof got distorted.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2011, 02:00:16 PM by Allemano »

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2011, 02:03:19 PM »
This one's from 1949, still not the right rear window.

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2011, 02:14:54 PM »
I believe it's from late 40s... and it's not an Aerlux

Here they are :

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2011, 02:55:36 PM »
In Sannia's book there is a picture of a 1500D berlinetta Superleggera of 1948...I'll try to upload it.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2011, 03:00:04 PM by Paul Jaray »

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2011, 03:03:04 PM »
Your pic shows the same car as I have shown two posts above, just from upfront  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2011, 03:06:28 PM »
Yes,and it's an Aerlux...the trunk is smaller too

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2011, 03:07:22 PM »
You are right...that is not from Sannia's book, of course, but it's just the same.
I'll try to upload the 2 versions of the 2800, then...these 2 versions have a similar back, different from the one you (we) posted...
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=5454.0
« Last Edit: March 02, 2011, 03:10:09 PM by Paul Jaray »

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2011, 03:10:55 PM »
The 2800 :

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2011, 03:12:25 PM »
Thank you, that was the later version I was going to upload. The other has just some differences in the nose treatment.

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Re: JPG #89
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2011, 03:32:57 PM »
Thank you, that was the later version I was going to upload. The other has just some differences in the nose treatment.

You're welcome!

So the other must be this one : "Ex Mussolini car"