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Solved - NEH 998: Styling proposal for 1958 Studebaker
« on: March 10, 2011, 10:09:47 AM »
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Re: NEH 998
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2011, 07:28:12 PM »
Plymouth concept vehicle?
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Re: NEH 998
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2011, 03:56:11 AM »
Quote from: araknid on March 10, 2011, 07:28:12 PM
Plymouth concept vehicle?

Not a Plymouth, no.
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Re: NEH 998
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2011, 10:50:56 AM »
Packard?
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Re: NEH 998
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2011, 01:37:00 PM »
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Re: NEH 998
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2011, 06:43:32 AM »
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Re: NEH 998
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2011, 07:53:43 AM »
I would think this would be a styling exercise for a 1958 Studebaker model.
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Re: NEH 998
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2011, 08:31:25 AM »
Desoto concept? ???
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Re: NEH 998
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2011, 11:29:33 AM »
Quote from: Aaron65 on March 24, 2011, 07:53:43 AM
I would think this would be a styling exercise for a 1958 Studebaker model.

It is a Studebaker styling proposal, yes.
Not sure if it's 1957 (which is what I have it as, but that may be because that's when it was made) or 58 so I'm giving you the point and calling it solved.

Here's a side view:
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Re: Solved - NEH 998: Styling proposal for 1958 Studebaker
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2011, 12:35:24 PM »
Yeah, I couldn't find this exact pic, but the 4 headlights make me think it's for a '58, because that's when 4 headlights became legal in the States (from what I read--I wasn't around yet)... :)

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Re: Solved - NEH 998: Styling proposal for 1958 Studebaker
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2011, 12:54:55 PM »
Quote from: Aaron65 on March 24, 2011, 12:35:24 PM
Yeah, I couldn't find this exact pic, but the 4 headlights make me think it's for a '58, because that's when 4 headlights became legal in the States (from what I read--I wasn't around yet)... :)



Not sure about that..
There were quite a few 1957 model year cars with twin-headlights, including Lincoln and (I think) Cadillac.
They had of course been around for many years, since the late 1940's, and had figured on many American concept cars in the first half of the 1950's.  Think they were only illegal because they were only 5.75 inches in diameter instead of the regulation 7 inches of the single headlights.
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Re: Solved - NEH 998: Styling proposal for 1958 Studebaker
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2011, 03:19:25 PM »
Good point...I think 4 was illegal in SOME states, which is why most cars didn't have 4 in '57.  The Lincoln did, and the Eldorado Brougham did, and the Imperial COULD have them as an option...however, Studebakers didn't get 4 until '58, along with many lower priced vehicles.
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Re: Solved - NEH 998: Styling proposal for 1958 Studebaker
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2011, 12:57:36 PM »
Quote from: Aaron65 on March 24, 2011, 03:19:25 PM
Good point...I think 4 was illegal in SOME states, which is why most cars didn't have 4 in '57.  The Lincoln did, and the Eldorado Brougham did, and the Imperial COULD have them as an option...however, Studebakers didn't get 4 until '58, along with many lower priced vehicles.

That's right.  '57MY cars were the first production cars to get twin-headlights, and below is a selection of pictures of those that sported them.  For the '58MY of course virtually every single American-made car on sale had them...
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Re: Solved - NEH 998: Styling proposal for 1958 Studebaker
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2011, 02:54:43 PM »
Just as a point of info - take a closer look at the '57 Lincoln. Those aren't true quad headlights. The upper lights in each pod are regular 7" duals. The lower lights, which are slightly smaller, are "road" lights. The Mercury and the Chrysler cars had the option of dual or quad headlights for '57, the availability depending on the state.
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Re: Solved - NEH 998: Styling proposal for 1958 Studebaker
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2011, 02:57:10 PM »
And all of the Chryslers shown could be had either way, 2 or 4...
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Re: Solved - NEH 998: Styling proposal for 1958 Studebaker
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2011, 03:51:00 PM »
Thanks for that Tonyola - you're absolutely right and I had never noticed!
The '57 Plymouths had the same too - one 7" light and another one that I never knew what it was under hoods that looked like they should contain twin headlights - and did for 1958!  Or maybe the '57s could have them as options too?
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Re: Solved - NEH 998: Styling proposal for 1958 Studebaker
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2011, 04:25:09 PM »
Quote from: Carnut on March 25, 2011, 03:51:00 PM
Thanks for that Tonyola - you're absolutely right and I had never noticed!
The '57 Plymouths had the same too - one 7" light and another one that I never knew what it was under hoods that looked like they should contain twin headlights - and did for 1958!  Or maybe the '57s could have them as options too?

Both Dodge and Plymouth used the parking-light-as-inner-headlight trick for '57. As far as I know, quads weren't even an option for '57, but as you said they became standard for '58.
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