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Title: JC latest puzzle - Solved by Wendax - Ilse 4/16 PS
Post by: DeAutogids on November 10, 2010, 09:24:47 AM
Let's try again with a new puzzle from me.

Dear puzzlers, please provide the complete name of the below car. Or rather chassis/engine combination.

Oh yes, you can gain a point by doing so.
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on November 23, 2010, 03:07:41 PM
No gueses from the rookies... or from the experts...
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on December 06, 2010, 05:39:10 PM
No guesses, nothing. Ok, down the hole it goes.
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 06, 2010, 05:41:19 PM
American?
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on December 06, 2010, 05:45:57 PM
Unfortunately, it is not from the Americas.
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: Ecnelis on December 07, 2010, 04:27:29 AM
German?
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on December 07, 2010, 04:41:37 AM
Indeed! It is from Germany!
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: Ecnelis on December 07, 2010, 08:26:08 AM
Auto Union connected?
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 07, 2010, 08:29:44 AM
Radiator plus badge looks very DKW...
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on December 07, 2010, 08:39:25 AM
Auto Union connected?
Not that I am aware off
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on December 07, 2010, 09:25:06 AM
Radiator plus badge looks very DKW...
No DKW either
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on December 10, 2010, 08:25:57 AM
I think the car is named after the town it is from.
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: grobmotorix on December 10, 2010, 03:56:12 PM
Is it an Apollo from Apolda?
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on December 12, 2010, 01:22:56 PM
Unfortunately not.
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on December 13, 2010, 04:28:15 AM
Early 1920s?
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on December 13, 2010, 05:41:44 AM
I believe so.
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: pnegyesi on December 13, 2010, 07:32:15 AM
Manufacturer existed for more than 10 years (to be more precise: made cars for more than 10 years?)
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 13, 2010, 07:32:35 AM
Short lived brand?
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 13, 2010, 07:34:17 AM
Manufacturer existed for more than 10 years (to be more precise: made cars for more than 10 years?)
Opps, too late.
Did they produce different models or just this one?
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on December 13, 2010, 08:16:55 AM
Manufacturer existed for more than 10 years (to be more precise: made cars for more than 10 years?)
As far as I can make out: No.
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 13, 2010, 08:25:57 AM
6-cylinder, like the Badenia?
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on December 13, 2010, 08:40:05 AM
Manufacturer existed for more than 10 years (to be more precise: made cars for more than 10 years?)
Opps, too late.
Did they produce different models or just this one?
As far as I am aware: yes.
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on December 13, 2010, 08:41:37 AM
6-cylinder, like the Badenia?
No.
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 13, 2010, 09:12:34 AM
Manufacturer existed for more than 10 years (to be more precise: made cars for more than 10 years?)
Opps, too late.
Did they produce different models or just this one?
As far as I am aware: yes.
...I admit the question was not that clear...so they did produce other models.
Is the name the same name of the city (like Reissig) or derivated from it?
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on December 13, 2010, 09:28:37 AM
Manufacturer existed for more than 10 years (to be more precise: made cars for more than 10 years?)
Opps, too late.
Did they produce different models or just this one?
As far as I am aware: yes.
...I admit the question was not that clear...so they did produce other models.
Is the name the same name of the city (like Reissig) or derivated from it?
Then my answer is wrong. They only produced one model as far as I am aware.
I believe the car's name is derived from the city, but is not an exact match.
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: Allan L on January 03, 2011, 04:22:54 AM
I believe the car's name is derived from the city, but is not an exact match.
So not Gaggenau, but possibly NSU?
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on January 03, 2011, 07:47:58 AM
It could have been, but it isn't.
I believe this was there only product and I doubt if they made many.
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on January 12, 2011, 06:53:13 AM
Ok, a big clue (in my opinion).

The car's name starts with the letter I.
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: Wendax on January 12, 2011, 07:00:11 AM
Ilse from Ilsenburg, Germany?
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on January 12, 2011, 07:03:00 AM
Ilse from Ilsenburg, Germany?
Where did you get that from? It's not complete yet.
Apparently you know more? I'd love to find out a bit more...
Locked for you for 24 hrs
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: Wendax on January 12, 2011, 07:05:19 AM
I'll write more this evening, when I'm at home.
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on January 12, 2011, 07:09:44 AM
I've locked it for you.
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: Wendax on January 12, 2011, 12:52:32 PM
Well, because of your clue, that the names of the car and the city, where it was built, are related, I already had figured out, that it could be Habag (from Hamburg), Ilse (from Ilsenburg) or Lipsia (from Leipzig), since Nowa (from Nowawes) looked different. But I didn't have any pictures of the other three on hand. But I can tell you what my one source tells about the Ilse:
In 1926, Hans Lorbach (former chief engineer of Phänomen) built the Ilse for the Fürst-Stolberg-Hütte (i.e. Count Stolberg Ironworks) in Ilsenburg near Wernigerode. The Fürst-Stolberg-Hütte was founded in 1530, built steam engines since 1833 and locomotives from 1924 to 1931. The Ilse had a 4-cylinder 2-stroke engine of 1100 cc capacity. That makes it a "6-PS-Wagen". There was never a series production.
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle
Post by: DeAutogids on January 13, 2011, 04:37:16 AM
Right you are!
I found the car in an advert. I wasn't looking for the car, but I thought I would google it, then I took some books and I found there was no info. Actually, the advert advertises the car as a 4/16 PS. It also states a different founding date (by a good margin as well, though the company website does show this date), but all the rest is true, so therefore you got the point.

The advert showed the chassis only, there was an Ilse logo and we can even find the name J. Lorbach (maybe he was baptised Johannes?), Fürst-Stolberg-Hütte, and the technical details of the motor.
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle - Solved by Wendax - Ilse 4/16 PS
Post by: Wendax on February 19, 2013, 08:35:33 AM
The ad:
Title: Re: JC latest puzzle - Solved by Wendax - Ilse 4/16 PS
Post by: DeAutogids on February 19, 2013, 10:37:01 AM
Indeed!