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SOLVED: Cuno Bistram 1954 - Siata 004
« on: October 19, 2011, 12:25:11 PM »
For one point, please identify this car and its year.
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Re: Siata 004
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2011, 11:13:28 AM »
UP...
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Re: Siata 004
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2011, 11:44:28 AM »
Cuno Bistram 1954
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Re: Siata 004
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2011, 01:48:40 PM »
Real car or a child's one?
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Re: Siata 004
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2011, 02:12:10 PM »
Another one-off custom vehicle from Hamburg, Germany
1 cylinder 146cc engine, kickstart
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Re: Siata 004
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2011, 05:05:12 PM »
Too late again!

I've been knowing the car for more than thirty years. It was on display at the car museums at Hamburg and Tremsbüttel. When the museums were closed, the Cuno Bistram was sold to Bruce Weiner together with the Hillersa, the Daus and a Fuldamobil S-4.
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SOLVED Cuno Bistram - Siata 004
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2011, 10:23:56 AM »
The car was shown in 1975 in a special exhibition "Kleinmobile nach 1945" at "Oldtimer Gasse" by the VW-dealer Raffay in Hamburg. Erik Eckermann wrote in the catalogue of the exhibition:
At the opening of the children's playground at Hagenbecks zoo in Hamburg, the real sensation for the children were six engine-less Bistram racers (ordered in 1949 by businessman Cuno Bistram and built by the Spindler workshop in Eppendorf), which shot down a wooden ramp like soapbox racers. Just for fun, in 1954 Bistram installed the 150-ccm-ILO-engine in one car, which reached 70 km/h - a bit fast for the children. In 1955, the remaining five cars got less powerful engines and were used on a flat circuit until 1973.
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Re: SOLVED Cuno Bistram - Siata 004
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2011, 10:31:54 AM »
Quote from: Siata1 on November 02, 2011, 10:23:56 AM
The car was shown in 1975 in a special exhibition "Kleinmobile nach 1945" at "Oldtimer Gasse" by the VW-dealer Raffay in Hamburg.
I was there, too.  :)
The car was also featured in the "Klein aber mein" movie about German microcars.
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Re: SOLVED Cuno Bistram - Siata 004
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2012, 12:39:35 PM »
Quote from: Siata1 on November 02, 2011, 10:23:56 AM
At the opening of the children's playground at Hagenbecks zoo in Hamburg, the real sensation for the children were six engine-less Bistram racers (ordered in 1949 by businessman Cuno Bistram and built by the Spindler workshop in Eppendorf), which shot down a wooden ramp like soapbox racers. Just for fun, in 1954 Bistram installed the 150-ccm-ILO-engine in one car, which reached 70 km/h - a bit fast for the children. In 1955, the remaining five cars got less powerful engines and were used on a flat circuit until 1973.
Four of them were discovered recently and will be on display at the "Museum der Arbeit" in Hamburg in connection with an exhibition about the car related city development of Hamburg. The exhibition will start on Friday. I'll be there.
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Re: SOLVED: Cuno Bistram 1954 - Siata 004
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2012, 02:09:22 AM »
The less powerful Cuno Bistrams once...
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Re: SOLVED: Cuno Bistram 1954 - Siata 004
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2012, 02:10:07 AM »
...and now
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Re: SOLVED: Cuno Bistram 1954 - Siata 004
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2013, 02:02:01 PM »
The fifth one was unearthed, too. So now all six Cuno Bistram ever built are known to exist.

The five cars in Germany will be treated differently: one will remain unrestored, the second one will be conserved like an artifact, the third one will be restored partially, the fourth one will be restored completely, but with the means and methods available in 1948, and the fifth one will be restored using modern technologies.

A sixth car will be built from scratch as a replica of the non-motorized Cuno Bistram, using 1948 methods.

A seventh car will be built as a modern interpretation with solar power supply and electric drive.
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Re: SOLVED: Cuno Bistram 1954 - Siata 004
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2014, 03:58:34 PM »
A contemporary picture:
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Re: SOLVED: Cuno Bistram 1954 - Siata 004
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2015, 02:40:34 AM »
Now all Cuno Bistrams are reunited. The Hagenbeck family bought back the ex-Weiner puzzle car.
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Re: SOLVED: Cuno Bistram 1954 - Siata 004
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2015, 02:50:50 PM »
I think this one was on display at this year´s Techno Classica fair in Essen.

Here are some more contemporary photos:
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