Fun #30 - 1904 Downshire 7 HP

Otto Puzzell · September 12, 2011, 12:23:34 PM

A bit newer than the last two guesses.

Wendax · September 12, 2011, 12:37:07 PM

That makes it a British car from 1904 with a two cylinder engine built by the company itself.

Although the one still existing looks different: is it a Celer?

Otto Puzzell · September 12, 2011, 12:38:57 PM

There is more than that one remaining make from the UK of that specification.

Not a Celer

Wendax · September 12, 2011, 03:41:16 PM

Soames?

Otto Puzzell · September 12, 2011, 03:43:17 PM

Quote from: Wendax on September 12, 2011, 03:41:16 PM
Soames?

Stay closer to the start of the alphabet

Wendax · September 12, 2011, 04:26:56 PM

Albany?

Paul Jaray · September 12, 2011, 04:31:40 PM

Arbee 2HP 1904?

Otto Puzzell · September 12, 2011, 08:20:16 PM

Quote from: Paul Jaray on September 12, 2011, 04:31:40 PM
Arbee 2HP 1904?

Name doesn't start with "a"

More than 2 HP

Paul Jaray · September 13, 2011, 04:36:58 AM

Dennis 14HP 1904?

Otto Puzzell · September 13, 2011, 04:45:00 AM

Quote from: Paul Jaray on September 13, 2011, 04:36:58 AM
D ~~ennis 14~~HP 1904?

Right first letter; year is spot-on.

Halve that HP number...

Paul Jaray · September 13, 2011, 04:57:48 AM

Dougill?

Allemano · September 13, 2011, 05:01:58 AM

Downshire from Belfast?

Otto Puzzell · September 13, 2011, 05:02:22 AM

Quote from: Paul Jaray on September 13, 2011, 04:57:48 AM
Dougill?

No...

Otto Puzzell · September 13, 2011, 05:02:34 AM

Quote from: Allemano on September 13, 2011, 05:01:58 AM
Downshire from Belfast?

Yes!

It's the 1904 Downshire 7 HP

Paul Jaray · September 13, 2011, 05:17:30 AM

That's why I couldn't find it...I had it under Chambers (1904-1927) as reported in Georgano's Encyclopedias (both the Beaulieu and the New Encyclopedia), and a couple of other books!

Another cool puzzle!

Wendax · September 13, 2011, 05:18:59 AM

Quote from: Paul Jaray on September 13, 2011, 05:17:30 AM
That's why I couldn't find it...I had it under Chambers (1904-1927) as reported in Georgano's Encyclopedias (both the Beaulieu and the New Encyclopedia), and a couple of other books!

Another cool puzzle!

Same with me

Otto Puzzell · September 13, 2011, 05:19:20 AM

Quote from: Paul Jaray on September 13, 2011, 05:17:30 AM
That's why I couldn't find it...I had it under Chambers (1904-1927) as reported in Georgano's Encyclopedias (both the Beaulieu and the New Encyclopedia), and a couple of other books!

Another cool puzzle!

Should I change the heading?

Wendax · September 13, 2011, 05:24:57 AM

No, I think Downshire is the correct name for this one. It was changed to Chambers in 1905 as I found out.

Allemano · September 13, 2011, 06:04:01 AM

According to my source Robert Chambers was first producing other technical products before he and his brother James (Jack) presented their first automobile with a 7 HP 2 cyl. boxer engine in 1904. James was at Vauxhall before and had been involved in building their first motor car. As mentioned by Wendax they changed the name to Chambers in 1905.
Downshire was an industrial destrict of Belfast.

Carnut · September 13, 2011, 06:20:04 AM

Quote from: Allemano on September 13, 2011, 06:04:01 AMDownshire was an industrial destrict of Belfast.

Not sure about that?
Belfast sits in 2 of the 6 Northern Irish counties, Co. Antrim and Co. Down.
Downshire is an Anglicisation of 'County Down', but is used also in Northern Ireland; there are plenty of streets named 'Downshire' something or other and companies use it, e.g. Downshire Timber Co.
I know Co Down extremely well as my wife comes from there, and I have been there 3 times in the last 6 weeks... It's actualy very beautiful.

gte4289 · March 01, 2025, 10:26:51 PM

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Fun #30 - 1904 Downshire 7 HP