Fun #104 - M Gustav Mees' Gasoline Carriage

Otto Puzzell · December 09, 2011, 04:20:24 AM

Not that one

Wendax · December 09, 2011, 09:09:45 AM

Built before 1900?

Otto Puzzell · December 09, 2011, 09:39:26 AM

No

woodinsight · December 09, 2011, 10:23:57 AM

Boes of 1904?

Paul Jaray · December 09, 2011, 10:27:54 AM

Mars?

Otto Puzzell · December 09, 2011, 10:28:44 AM

Quote from: woodinsight on December 09, 2011, 10:23:57 AM
Boes of 1904?

No

Otto Puzzell · December 09, 2011, 10:29:56 AM

Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 09, 2011, 10:27:54 AM
Mars?

No, but you got two letters right

M _ _ s

Paul Jaray · December 09, 2011, 10:43:48 AM

Can't find it in my index... $:-\$
Was it made around 1900-1901?

woodinsight · December 09, 2011, 10:50:05 AM

I can't find this one either.....

I was thinking Mors but that's French.

João · December 09, 2011, 10:58:54 AM

I was thinking the same.

Otto Puzzell · December 09, 2011, 12:07:18 PM

Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 09, 2011, 10:43:48 AM
Can't find it in my index... $:-\$
Was it made around 1900-1901?

Yes!

Wendax · December 09, 2011, 12:14:38 PM

Mies?

Otto Puzzell · December 09, 2011, 12:17:10 PM

Not Mors; not French.

It may be this is the only one of this type made, or one of a very small production run.

I must correct an earlier response or two. While the publication from which I obtained the puzzle picture dates from 1900, further investigation indicates the car was built before then. It was lauded in its home country for its exemplary design and the care with which it was constructed.

My apologies to all.

Otto Puzzell · December 09, 2011, 12:18:23 PM

Quote from: Wendax on December 09, 2011, 12:14:38 PM
Mies?

M_es.

Since you were slighted by my earlier "not built before 1900 misstatement", this one is locked for you.

Wendax · December 09, 2011, 12:21:00 PM

I go for Mues.

Otto Puzzell · December 09, 2011, 01:22:29 PM

We're running out of vowels

woodinsight · December 09, 2011, 01:34:15 PM

Still locked?

Otto Puzzell · December 09, 2011, 01:44:15 PM

I'll give Wendax another go at it, unless he'd like to pass.

Wendax · December 09, 2011, 01:50:55 PM

Mees?

Otto Puzzell · December 09, 2011, 01:55:32 PM

Quote from: Wendax on December 09, 2011, 01:50:55 PM
Mees?

That's it! Please share what you know; I'd be happy to post some additional pictures and information.

Wendax · December 09, 2011, 02:07:33 PM

Sorry, but in the end it was pure guessing. I haven't found anything about a Mr. Mees in connection with early German automobiles. I'm very interested in your forthcoming information. The car surely looks German. With its rear engine and artillery wheels it follows the early Benz and Lutzmann lines.

Otto Puzzell · December 09, 2011, 02:19:36 PM

I'll do an upload shortly.

Wendax · December 09, 2011, 02:30:57 PM

Gustav Mees seems to have invented the desmodromic valve system in 1896. He was from Barmen (now Wuppertal), but worked in Wetzikon, Switzerland around 1898. I found this picture of a Victoria built in 1898 by the "Erste Automobilfabrik der Schweiz" in Wetzikon. It looks rather similar, doesn't it? The head of the workshop was Franz Brozincevic of later FBW fame. Automobil Revue states that "a few dozens" of those Wetzikons were built. So I guess the puzzle car is one of them.

Otto Puzzell · December 09, 2011, 04:30:16 PM

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Otto Puzzell · December 09, 2011, 04:30:43 PM

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Fun #104 - M Gustav Mees' Gasoline Carriage