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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2010, 09:48:55 AM »
OK, then I guess the connection must be car #8, the '42 Buick Special Series A Convertible driven in 'The Falcon's Brother'?

That's the right car and connection, even if I had preferred you to say 'The Falcon Strikes Back", where we find the evidence that The Falcon does drive this Buick. But we can assume that he had the same car in the two films.
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2010, 10:17:57 AM »
Two things are correctly identified in your post. But the character,  the film, and so the link, are wrong.
You know the rule: Only one answer left, and locked for you, let's say 72 hours...

Are you referring to the Tom Conway or the Fernandel connection?!
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2010, 10:41:28 AM »
The Fernandel connection.
The Tom Conway connection is fine (see above)
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2010, 12:22:07 PM »
OK. I'll have to keep working on the Fernandel connection.  What else was right?!

In the meantime how about Character #1 (Joseph Cotten) played George Loomis in "Niagara" and drove a '51 Chevrolet, Ride #1?

Also have a feeling that Character #3 is Ralph Meeker, who played Mike Hammer in "Kiss Me Deadly" and drove a '54 Chevrolet Corvette, Ride #9?
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2010, 04:23:44 PM »
And how about Character #7 = Fernandel playing baker Felicien Hebrard in the French movie "Le boulanger de Valorgue" (known in English as "The Wild Oat") which links to Ride #13 = 1950 Simca 8 Sport Cabriolet driven by a character in the film!


Two things are correctly identified in your post. But the character,  the film, and so the link, are wrong.
You know the rule: Only one answer left, and locked for you, let's say 72 hours...

Sorry, but I'm getting a bit confused here.

Does this mean that the Fernandel and Simca connection is correct, or that both individual identifications are correct, but not necessarily linked?

And what is locked? Everything to do with Fernandel, everything to do with the Simca, or both?  :)

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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2010, 04:40:28 AM »
Sorry, but I'm getting a bit confused here.

Does this mean that the Fernandel and Simca connection is correct, or that both individual identifications are correct, but not necessarily linked?

And what is locked? Everything to do with Fernandel, everything to do with the Simca, or both?  :)

Confused? I thought thi was clear. This puzzle is about "characters", it says so in the title, and establishing connections. It also says that the cars have to be driven by the character.
Of course this is Fernandel and a Simca sport. That doesn't get us very far. The connection hasn't been established.
About what is locked: the connection, of course, and to make it easy for you let's say starting with one of its elements: Fernandel.

( You think that you've established some simple rules for a puzzle, but there is always a guy who comes upi with a question that you didn't foresee...)
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2010, 11:21:14 AM »
Thanks Ray.  What about my reply #28; anything right there?!
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2010, 03:01:04 PM »
Let's have a go at another one then:

Character #4 is Wolfgang Preiss, who played Dr Mabuse in "Das Testament des Dr Mabuse" - and he drove a 1950 Simca 8 Sport Cabriolet (Car #13) in that film!

So if that's right I'll have to look for a different car driven by Fernandel...
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2010, 03:11:31 PM »
Well, I have yet another possible connection for the Simca.

This is character 12, American-born French actor Eddie Constantine, who starred in a series of French B movies as secret agent and detective Lemmy Caution, a character created by author Peter Cheyney.

Lemmy is seen driving a 1950 Simca 8 Sport Cabriolet (Ride 13) in the 1953 film Cet Homme est Dangereux.

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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2010, 03:28:42 PM »
Character 10 - Ralph Meeker > Ride 9 - 1954 Chevy Corvette

Playing Mike Hammer, Meeker Drives a 54 Corvette in the film 'Kiss me Deadly'

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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2010, 03:42:47 PM »
Character 7 - Dean Martin > Ride 5 - Mercedes-Benz 250SL

Playing Matt Helm, Martin drives a 250SL in the film 'The Wrecking Crew' (1969)

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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2010, 06:11:23 PM »
Right, here's what I think the Fernandel connection is:

Fernandel (Character #7) plays priest Don Camillo in the Italian film "Don Camillo e l'onorevole Peppino" (La grande bagarre de Don Camillo in French), who drives a 1925 Fiat 509 = Ride #11.
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2010, 03:39:48 AM »
Thanks Ray.  What about my reply #28; anything right there?!

Nothing. except that there is indeed a 1954 Corvette in 'Kiss me deadly'.
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2010, 03:41:02 AM »
Let's have a go at another one then:

Character #4 is Wolfgang Preiss, who played Dr Mabuse in "Das Testament des Dr Mabuse" - and he drove a 1950 Simca 8 Sport Cabriolet (Car #13) in that film!

So if that's right I'll have to look for a different car driven by Fernandel...

Very good!. That's right.
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2010, 03:43:06 AM »
wow, I really haven't been paying attention have I  ::)

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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #40 on: July 19, 2010, 04:24:29 AM »
Well, I have yet another possible connection for the Simca.

This is character 12, American-born French actor Eddie Constantine, who starred in a series of French B movies as secret agent and detective Lemmy Caution, a character created by author Peter Cheyney.

Lemmy is seen driving a 1950 Simca 8 Sport Cabriolet (Ride 13) in the 1953 film Cet Homme est Dangereux.

Oomph!
You're quite right about the actor, character and car. I hadn't seen this one. However, the right connection of the Simca has been found by Carnut. Mabuse cannot be connected with another of these cars, wile Lemmy Caution surely can.
Now this one (Constantine/Caution) is locked for you 72 hours.
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2010, 04:27:37 AM »
Character 10 - Ralph Meeker > Ride 9 - 1954 Chevy Corvette

Playing Mike Hammer, Meeker Drives a 54 Corvette in the film 'Kiss me Deadly'

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Fine. Guess who's seated next to him in the picture...
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2010, 04:29:39 AM »
Character 7 - Dean Martin > Ride 5 - Mercedes-Benz 250SL

Playing Matt Helm, Martin drives a 250SL in the film 'The Wrecking Crew' (1969)

Wow! This is the first time that I hear  of a resemblance between Dean Martin and Fernandel!
No.
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2010, 04:33:05 AM »
Right, here's what I think the Fernandel connection is:

Fernandel (Character #7) plays priest Don Camillo in the Italian film "Don Camillo e l'onorevole Peppino" (La grande bagarre de Don Camillo in French), who drives a 1925 Fiat 509 = Ride #11.

That's it!

Will anything be left for the pros?
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2010, 06:12:16 AM »
Well, I have yet another possible connection for the Simca.

This is character 12, American-born French actor Eddie Constantine, who starred in a series of French B movies as secret agent and detective Lemmy Caution, a character created by author Peter Cheyney.

Lemmy is seen driving a 1950 Simca 8 Sport Cabriolet (Ride 13) in the 1953 film Cet Homme est Dangereux.

Oomph!
You're quite right about the actor, character and car. I hadn't seen this one. However, the right connection of the Simca has been found by Carnut. Mabuse cannot be connected with another of these cars, wile Lemmy Caution surely can.
Now this one (Constantine/Caution) is locked for you 72 hours.

Back to the drawing board..... Nice picture of the Simca, though, wasn't it?

OK, my alternative guess for #12 is actor Eddie Constantine, character Lemmy Caution, 1954 movie Les Femmes s'en Balancent (English title Dames Get Along) and Ride 3, the 1953 Oldsmobile Super 88.

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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2010, 11:34:13 AM »
You got it.
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2010, 11:53:51 AM »
Let's try some more:

Thomas Hunter (Character #13) playing Jens Larsen in "Gebissen wird nur nachts" who drives a Mercedes-Benz 230SL (Ride #5).

Farley Granger (Character #3) playing Bowie in "They Live by Night" (aka "The Twisted Road") who drives a '41 Buick Special Coupe (ride #14).
The character is a guess because I can't find that picture anywhere and none of the other pictures look like Farley Granger (although I thought that about Ralph Meeker too before barrett identified him as Character #10: I couldn't see any resemblance...!), but it must fit a ride somewhere so it's as good a guess as any!
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2010, 01:19:48 PM »
No, and no, sorry.
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #48 on: July 20, 2010, 09:31:44 AM »
No, and no, sorry.

OK.  This is getting harder!

Character #1 is in fact Robert Montgomery.  He played another Philip Marlowe in "Lady in the Lake" but I can't tie any of the remaining cars to that film (nearest would be the '41 Ford, but the only cars I can find in that film are '46 Fords so that can't be it).  The only other remaining ones are also not featured in that film. 

Does the picture of the character have to be from the film with the car in it?  Because although I can find that picture of him I can't actually tie it to any film and he looks much younger there than he did in 1947 when "Lady in the Lake" was made.  But again, if it is an earlier film then the only car old enough would be Ride #12, and I can't tie that in to any of his earlier films..  A real poser.

Ride #14 I reckon is from "They Live by Night" but I can't tie that in to any of the remaining characters, and in any case I think you've already dismissed that one (unless it's Character #3 who you can't see and is Howard da Silva playing Chicamaw?)  Superseded now although I did have the right Character number and ride but not the right film or Character name!
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #49 on: July 20, 2010, 02:52:51 PM »
Yes, it is getting harder.

But I just had a minor breakthrough with Character 3. Hiding behind the girl is Robert Mitchum. And I think it's Philip Marlowe yet again, this time in the 1975 film Farewell, My Lovely. He drives Ride 14, the 1940 Buick Special.