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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #50 on: July 20, 2010, 06:39:39 PM »
Great!
I'd considered that one several times but never thought for a minute that character could be Robert Mitchum, hence couldn't tie the character in!  Well done!  Think it's a '41 Buick Special though (or did it last 2 years?!)
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2010, 05:15:55 PM »
I'm pretty sure that both Ride 14 and the screen shot I posted are the 1940 model. The grille is different on the '41.

But aside from that, I have been looking at Robert Montgomery's films (Character 1), and I agree with Carnut that only Lady in the Lake (1947) seems a likely candidate for this puzzle.

It's an odd film - it's shot entirely from Philip Marlowe's perspective. The camera (and therefore the viewer) sees what Marlowe is seeing, and Robert Montgomery (who also directed) only appears when Marlowe is looking at his own reflection, in a mirror or whatever.

This also means that there are no long shots of Marlowe and his car. But there are a few glimpses, a couple shown below. I think there are enough details to tentatively identify it as a 1941 Ford Super Deluxe, so I think that Carnut could be right, and the link is with Ride 15.

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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2010, 01:08:30 PM »
I'm just back after a 3 day leave. I'll reply later.
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #53 on: July 23, 2010, 03:33:57 AM »

But I just had a minor breakthrough with Character 3. Hiding behind the girl is Robert Mitchum. And I think it's Philip Marlowe yet again, this time in the 1975 film Farewell, My Lovely. He drives Ride 14, the 1940 Buick Special.

Right (and  Carnut is wrong: this is a 1940 Buick indeed).
« Last Edit: July 23, 2010, 03:48:34 AM by Ray B. »
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #54 on: July 23, 2010, 03:40:35 AM »

Does the picture of the character have to be from the film with the car in it? 

I never said so, and it doesn't.

Guys, by making partial and unsure guesses while explaining what mental torments led you to those, you do cause this puzzle author serious headaches.
Sorry Carnut, I have to dismiss yours and give Tom_I the point for the Robert Montgomery connection. 
« Last Edit: July 23, 2010, 03:45:23 AM by Ray B. »
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #55 on: July 23, 2010, 04:06:17 PM »
Four to go, and I hope not as easy as the first eleven.

And a bonus point for the puzzler who will answer this question:

Which is the actor, already identified here as one of the 15 characters, who also played another one and a half?
So, who, where and why?
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #56 on: July 24, 2010, 09:07:29 AM »

Does the picture of the character have to be from the film with the car in it? 

I never said so, and it doesn't.

Guys, by making partial and unsure guesses while explaining what mental torments led you to those, you do cause this puzzle author serious headaches.
Sorry Carnut, I have to dismiss yours and give Tom_I the point for the Robert Montgomery connection. 

OK, so Tom I gets the point for agreeing with me identifying Robert Montgomery in "Lady in the Lake" and saying it's most likely to be the '41 Ford?!
Hmmmm.  Thought it might be worth a lock at least...
« Last Edit: July 24, 2010, 09:10:07 AM by Carnut »
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #57 on: July 24, 2010, 09:49:21 AM »
Yes, to be honest Carnut did most of the work. I just filled in the final detail.

And I guess I should really have waited for Ray to comment on Carnut's post before adding my £0.02 worth, so I don't think I deserve the point.

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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #58 on: July 24, 2010, 10:06:49 AM »
All right! One must admit when he's been wrong. I re-read all your replies and I see that I had overlooked Carnut's reply #48 and the mention of the Ford. The description of his doubts and questionings got me lost.  And since Tom agrees, Carnut gets the point.
Sorry, Carnut, Thanks Tom.
Wrong corrected.
I hadn't locked it because I feel that only matching an actor with a character isn't enough, but I had already done it twice, once for each one of you, so everyone is even now.
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #59 on: July 25, 2010, 04:52:20 AM »
I'll guess Character #5: William Lawrence III (Adam West) from "The Young Philadelphians" and car# 12 (Packard)
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #60 on: July 25, 2010, 07:42:24 AM »
This is only partly correct, a small part. So, locked for you 72 hours. One more try.
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #61 on: July 25, 2010, 07:43:38 AM »
Wrong car? I couldn't find any stills from that movie that featured a car.
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #62 on: July 25, 2010, 08:08:51 AM »
You've only got the right actor (I can't tell more without being unfair to other puzzlers)
 Start with that.
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #63 on: July 25, 2010, 08:21:32 AM »
You've only got the right actor (I can't tell more without being unfair to other puzzlers)
 Start with that.

Understood - thank you.
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #64 on: July 25, 2010, 08:30:19 AM »
I'll guess Character #5: Bruce Wayne / Batman (Adam West) from the TV Series (and the movie) Batman. He is associated (sort of) with Ride #4, the 1955 Lincoln Futura show car, which was later transformed into the Batmobile.
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #65 on: July 25, 2010, 08:42:42 AM »
Closely associated: he drove it in both, and as you can see in the B&W photo, the dash hadn't changed that much in 10 years.
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #66 on: July 25, 2010, 04:07:01 PM »
All right! One must admit when he's been wrong. I re-read all your replies and I see that I had overlooked Carnut's reply #48 and the mention of the Ford. The description of his doubts and questionings got me lost.  And since Tom agrees, Carnut gets the point.
Sorry, Carnut, Thanks Tom.
Wrong corrected.
I hadn't locked it because I feel that only matching an actor with a character isn't enough, but I had already done it twice, once for each one of you, so everyone is even now.

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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #67 on: July 25, 2010, 04:08:50 PM »
Yes, to be honest Carnut did most of the work. I just filled in the final detail.

And I guess I should really have waited for Ray to comment on Carnut's post before adding my £0.02 worth, so I don't think I deserve the point.

And thanks Tom I too!
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #68 on: July 26, 2010, 04:49:11 AM »
Closely associated: he drove it in both, and as you can see in the B&W photo, the dash hadn't changed that much in 10 years.

So I'm wrong again?
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #69 on: July 26, 2010, 04:58:02 AM »
Closely associated: he drove it in both, and as you can see in the B&W photo, the dash hadn't changed that much in 10 years.

So I'm wrong again?
??? Wrong? Surely not, you're dead right!   :applause:
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #70 on: July 26, 2010, 09:07:57 AM »
Woo-hoo! ;D
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #71 on: July 28, 2010, 03:59:07 PM »
Wow....another cool puzzle......that could lead to more of the same type, given the wealth of possibilities from TV and film.....



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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #72 on: July 30, 2010, 09:39:42 AM »
Let's try another one:

Character #15 is William Powell playing the eponymous Godfrey in "My Man Godfrey", driving Car #12 the Packard 12 Phaeton.

Here is the complete picture from the film, including his then real wife Carole Lombard, for whom he was chauffering in the film:
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #73 on: July 30, 2010, 10:40:19 AM »
And another one:

Character #13 is John Gavin, who played agent OSS 117 (Jonathan Roberts) in "Niente Rose per OSS 117" (also known as "Murder For Sale"), who drove Ride #5, a Mercedes-Benz 230 SL.

So that just leaves Character #2, who obviously drove Ride #1 the '51 Chevrolet but still working on identification of character and film!

Incidentally John Gavin was already signed up to play Agent 007 James Bond in "Live and Let Die", replacing the disastrous George Lazenby who only did "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" but Cubby Broccoli got cold feet and tore up the contract when Sean Connery agreed to come back for one last time.
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Re: Famous characters in poetry and prose
« Reply #74 on: July 30, 2010, 11:42:07 AM »
Let's try another one:

Character #15 is William Powell playing the eponymous Godfrey in "My Man Godfrey", driving Car #12 the Packard 12 Phaeton.

Here is the complete picture from the film, including his then real wife Carole Lombard, for whom he was chauffering in the film:

This is William Powell indeed, and maybe he goes with the Packard, but your link, film and wharacter are wrong. Locked for you and your second chance.
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