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Barrett's Headscratchers - Solved!
« on: July 18, 2011, 12:32:48 PM »
A selection of cars that I don't have positive IDs for, taken from a variety of sources.
Some of the cars I have a little information on, others I have no idea whatsoever. I'm not sure how I'm going to award points yet, we'll see if anything gets conclusively solved first. If any of these are reposts you'll get a point for pointing that out!

(By all means ask questions, but don't expect me to give you a decent answer!)

Okay, in no particular order, the cars:
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2011, 12:40:44 PM »
#2 - Lancia Astura (SACO) Still looking for more information

#3 - 1954 Gussenbauer Special (SACO)

#4 - Allard designed by Michael Eddowes (woodinsight) - still looking for the coachbuilder

#5 - DKW F7 by Karosseriefachbauschule Kaiserslautern (?) (SACO)

#6 - I believe I know the chassis/ engine but not much else

#7 - body by Karosseriefachbauschule Kaiserslautern on unknown chassis (Allemano) - still looking for more information about the base car

#8 - Delletrez Diesel by René Dhoëdt (SACO)

# 1a - NSU Spiess 1300 of Manfred Spiess / Heinz Gilges, 1969. (SACO)
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2011, 01:43:02 PM »
#8:Delettrez diesel ?
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2011, 01:50:51 PM »
#1a : NSU 1000 1969 ?
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2011, 01:59:19 PM »
#2: Lancia Astura  (Asmara 1950 ) ?
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2011, 02:08:41 PM »
Quote from: SACO on July 18, 2011, 01:43:02 PM
#8:Delettrez diesel ?

This is what I've heard it called, but I'm really not sure about that. Any evidence? I would like to know who the coachbuilder was too.

Quote from: SACO on July 18, 2011, 01:50:51 PM
#1a : NSU 1000 1969 ?

Yes, this is what I have too. Really I'm looking for the constructor.

Quote from: SACO on July 18, 2011, 01:59:19 PM
#2: Lancia Astura  (Asmara 1950 ) ?

No idea about this one at all, I suppose it could be a Lancia! Any proof?
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2011, 02:19:56 PM »
#7 : Borgward Rometsch ?
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 02:34:49 PM »
#8 : René Dhoëdt for coachbuilder ?
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2011, 02:42:30 PM »
#2 : Astura with Wikipedia :
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2011, 03:23:10 PM »
Love these kind of puzzles! :thumbsup:
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2011, 03:30:51 PM »
Quote from: SACO on July 18, 2011, 02:42:30 PM
#2 : Astura with Wikipedia :

Well, searching 'Lancia Astura Asmara' brings up this photo, can somebody who speaks Italian add some more details please?

I'll award you one point (at the end) for finding the Make and Model but I'll give another point to anyone who can give me more details of the coachbuilder etc....

Quote from: SACO on July 18, 2011, 02:19:56 PM
#7 : Borgward Rometsch ?

Looks like it could be, but I've never heard of such a car! keep digging!

Quote from: SACO on July 18, 2011, 02:34:49 PM
#8 : René Dhoëdt for coachbuilder ?

Again, I've seen this reported in one place on the internet. I have no idea how true this is, I really need to see some supporting evidence for this one!
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2011, 03:34:04 PM »
Quote from: SACO on July 18, 2011, 01:43:02 PM
#8:Delettrez diesel ?

I found it as a Delettrez diesel bodied by René Dhoedt in Paris, photographed at Enghien.
Sorry.  I didn't see that SACO already answered
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2011, 03:50:49 PM »
#1a :Manfred Spiess / Heinz Gilges sur NSU Spiess 1300
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2011, 04:04:39 PM »
Quote from: pguillem on July 18, 2011, 03:34:04 PM
Quote from: SACO on July 18, 2011, 01:43:02 PM
#8:Delettrez diesel ?

I found it as a Delettrez diesel bodied by René Dhoedt in Paris, photographed at Enghien.


Ah, Enghien. That's something I am sure of at least!  ;D

I have seen all this written on the internet but only mentioned in one or two places... I don't know where the information comes from. It may very well be right, but this car is so far removed from the Delettrez Diesel car I have seen before I am not willing to accept the solution without some corroborative evidence. There must exist somewhere a period publication with more information about this car...

I only know of the Delettrez Le Mans car which I always thought was based on a pre-war Delahaye or Delage chassis... The only other mention of René Dhoedt is in conjunction with bodying a pre-war Delage in the 1950s....
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2011, 04:10:39 PM »
Quote from: SACO on July 18, 2011, 03:50:49 PM
#1a :Manfred Spiess / Heinz Gilges sur NSU Spiess 1300

Well, this is almost certainly right. I have this as  NSU Spiess 1300 at the Nurburgring, 1969. Previous searched for NSU Spiess sent back so many results I assumed 'spiess' was a generic German term for 'sports' or something like that....  :P ::)

Another point for you SACO, if the rest of these ever get solved!
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2011, 04:41:52 PM »
About Delettrez :

A Delettrez-Delahaye (perhaps Diesel)
Monte Carlo 1950 with Delettrez brother's
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2011, 01:51:36 AM »
#3 : Osca ?
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2011, 01:55:05 AM »
#6 :Steyr T55 modified ?
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2011, 10:49:27 AM »
#8 : An other view ,called " la joy mobile " 1954
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2011, 11:21:10 AM »
1938-40 Lancia astura MM

Not sure if it is the same car
Found this.

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Found that through a diacast model site   ;D
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2011, 11:51:45 AM »
Roger: linking is forbidden on this section of the board. Please read the Autopuzzles Rulebook!
This is your first warning!
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2011, 07:20:27 PM »
My apologies
Warning heeded.

Could car number one be a Bandinni ?

PS. the starting grid is from 1950 at Circuit Dell' Asmara
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2011, 07:25:30 AM »
Quote from: SACO on July 19, 2011, 01:51:36 AM
#3 : Osca ?

I have no idea!

Quote from: SACO on July 19, 2011, 01:55:05 AM
#6 :Steyr T55 modified ?

I see what you mean but I'm pretty sure this isn't a Steyr

Quote from: SACO on July 20, 2011, 10:49:27 AM
#8 : An other view ,called " la joy mobile " 1954

Thank you!

Quote from: roger on July 20, 2011, 07:20:27 PM
Could car number one be a Bandinni ?

PS. the starting grid is from 1950 at Circuit Dell' Asmara

Not sure if it's a Bandini or a Lancia.....
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2011, 02:49:36 AM »
#5 :DKW F7 prototype 1953
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Re: Barrett's Headscratchers
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2011, 06:27:50 PM »
Could be a DKW. I'm pretty sure it's German but I think it is form an outside coachbuilder rather that a factory prototype. I might be wrong though!
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