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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2018 => Topic started by: barrett on July 16, 2011, 08:08:36 AM
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What is this car, who built the bodywork and when?
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:o
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:popcorn:
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Up...
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Delahaye 135 M 1935, body by Karosserie Hebmüller, 1952.
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Too many puzzlers from Germany on board. No chance to get the (relatively) easy ones! ;D
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Well done Siata1, that's correct
bad luck Allemano!
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It is nowadays a long way to the Professional status, you need to pick any chance.
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According to my source it is a Delahaye 135 MS. It was originally built (chassis number 46810) as a „Spécial de Course“ racecar for Lucy and Laury Schell who started at Le Mans in 1936. The Hebmüller body was built in 1952 for a Monsieur Grivilet.
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The Hebmüller book says it's apparently a 135 M, but they're not absolutely sure about it. I'll add a back view and interior shots + specifications soon.
bad luck Allemano!
No problem barrett, I got used to it. ;)
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I know the Hebmüller book. ;)
The French Club Delahaye has collected a few pictures that show the car in several stages of its life, the last ones showing the car when it was for sale in 2008:
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I know the Hebmüller book. ;)
Maybe you do, but probably not all of our gentle members and visitors. ;)
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Sorry, what I meant was that I know that it is called a 135M in the Hebmüller book, but I tend to trust the Club Delahaye a little bit more in this particular matter.
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but I tend to trust the Club Delahaye a little bit more in this particular matter.
I agree on that.
I think it wasn't the best idea to change the color of the car to pale grey. The rather strange proportions of that vehicle appear now even more unbalanced.
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Thanks for posting the extra info and pictures gents!
I agree that is doesn't look so good in the pale colour but it was never much of a looker anyway... I'm happy that it still survives in this configuration though (or did, a lot can happen in 3 years)
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Identify this car and coachbuilder for a point:
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Adjusted the lighting a bit to make it easier to see:
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Veritas Nürburgring Coupe
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Veritas Nürburgring Coupe
I can see the resemblance, but that's not it.
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Davis?
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Davis?
No
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Is there a reason why front cannot be seen
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Is there a reason why front cannot be seen
Just the way the image was cropped. Here's the missing front corner:
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So nothing serious happend- looks like one of the more restraint attempts from Mister Espenlaub
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So nothing serious happend- looks like one of the more restraint attempts from Mister Espenlaub
No connection to Espenlaub
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connection to Trippel
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connection to Trippel
No
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Experts?
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I think it is a Delahaye, probably a 1938 135, rebodied by Hebmuller post war.
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To eliminate the obvious: is there any connection to an Austin A90 Atlantic?
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It looks French....
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it reminds me of a fusi-ferro-aurora 8?
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I think it is a Delahaye, probably a 1938 135, rebodied by Hebmuller post war.
Originally a 1936 135 M, but close enough for the point!
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Merged
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Apparently this bodywork now sits on a 1948 chassis. The resulting vehicle is up for auction later this week. Here is the story:
"In October of 1940, Eugène Chaboud, the talented French racing driver, handed over his Delahaye 135 S Compétition Court (chassis number 46810) racing car to a Mr. Grivelet, an important wine merchant living in Paris. It was subsequently re-registered in Paris under the number 3760 RN, where it would remain for the duration of Second World War.
After the conclusion of hostilities, Mr. Grivelet decided to rebody his Delahaye. It was common at the time to use a high performance Delahaye chassis and drivetrain as a basis create new coachwork designed by one of the many great coachbuilders of the time. This testifies of the passion and exquisite taste of Mr. Grivelet, who commissioned the artisans at Hebmüller to build a majestic and unique 2-3 seater coupe with a sunroof and retractable rear window. A renowned coachbuilder in Wülfrath, Germany, Hebmüller were famous for important works on Mercedes-Benz 540 K, BMW 328, Packard in the pre-war era, and were also well known for their design of specific Volkswagen Beetle cabriolets.
Enjoying his prized possession for many years, Mr. Grivelet finally sold this coupe in 1970.
Passing to Jacques Vincent in 1973, the car was exported to Belgium where it remained with two subsequent owners, the second being Martin Braquet-Arens, who kept the car from 1979-1991. Sold to an owner in the Netherlands in 1991, it was returned to its native France several years later when purchased by the consignor, a collector of rare Delahayes, in 2011. At that time, the bodywork is removed from the chassis and placed into storage. Six years later, the consignor decided to embark on a light restoration of the body and fitted it to a perfectly restored 1948 Delahaye 135 M chassis and drivetrain, (chassis no. 800870)."
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Both, the original and rebodied 135 S and the Hebmüller bodied car with 1948 chassis are on auction in Villa Erba on May 25th. It's featured on a very popular website/blog most of you might know. ;)