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Arunas' #457 - PAWF Special: FAKE Eva Braun's Mercedes-Benz
« on: February 26, 2011, 05:18:24 AM »
What is this car is more or less clear. However, I never knew who was responsible for the bodywork.

So... For a point: which famous person can be associated with this car?
The 2nd point goes for the ID of the coachbuilder.

Have fun! :)
« Last Edit: February 26, 2011, 07:10:57 AM by Arunas »

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Re: Arunas' #457 - PAWF Special
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2011, 05:21:51 AM »
Whit those wheelcovers I have to choose...a Mercedes Benz for a nazi or a Krit... ;D

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Re: Arunas' #457 - PAWF Special
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2011, 05:24:07 AM »
Whit those wheelcovers I have to choose...a Mercedes Benz for a nazi or a Krit... ;D

You're right. It's Mercedes-Benz :) but a more specific answer is needed for a point. BTW, I'm not sure that I know what is :a Krit"  :-\

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Re: Arunas' #457 - PAWF Special
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2011, 05:33:38 AM »
 ;)

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Re: Arunas' #457 - PAWF Special
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2011, 05:37:20 AM »
 :)

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Re: Arunas' #457 - PAWF Special
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2011, 06:53:50 AM »
Eva Braun Handmade Golden Mercedes Benz

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Re: Arunas' #457 - PAWF Special
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2011, 07:10:09 AM »
The first point is gone! Well done, Oguerrerob :) A very nice picture!

I am leaving this puzzle open to find the coachbuilder (if any).

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Re: Arunas' #457 - PAWF Special: Eva Braun's Mercedes-Benz by ???
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2011, 07:40:34 AM »
Some source says "This particular vehicle has no factual basis in any literature, nor in the official archives of Daimler Chrysler AG. Hucksters of unknown origin have created a fantasy car"
And they describe it:
The chassis and motor were hand crafted in Stuttgart, Germany and the body hand crafted in Switzerland. The motor is supercharged straight eight. 400 Hp. The cruising speed 170 Mph and it has been driven at 175 Mph. It has 2 transmissions, both with over drive, 2 sets gears and may be driven with 4 or 7 speeds. The first transmission takes' it to 125 Mph using first set of gears— then converts to the second transmission to reach 175 Mph. This automobile has both fuel injectors and spark plugs. The gas tank is under the hood. .. The diesel tank is the rear of the car and it may be driven with either fuel. The lever on the steering wheel converts it from gas to diesel. There is also a lever on the steering column that lifts the body away from the chassis for a more even ride, it is claimed that the British Jaguar was copied exactly from this car in 1940. The wheels are of special interest . . . each wheel individually suspended and each wheel is equipped with 7 automatic balancers. The tires have been replaced, they are exact replicas of the originals—17 inch, 7 ply.
The only changes made on the car are the paint and the radiator cap. Original color was black and silver. The original radiator cap-hood ornament was stolen and has been replaced. The ornament on the new cap originally decorated a Nazi flag staff. The gold trim you see on the automobile is 22 carat gold. The metal curtains in front of the radiator slide up so as to keep the cold out and allow engine to heat faster. The automobile weighs 7,500 lbs., almost as much as a Cadillac. The body is made of 10 gauge steel and is built in 1 piece with no seams. There are only 4 removable parts. .2 doors, the trunk and the hood.

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Re: Arunas' #457 - PAWF Special: Eva Braun's Mercedes-Benz by ???
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2011, 08:03:49 AM »
It seems from the description it really is an amazing car :o, but

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the body hand crafted in Switzerland
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Re: Arunas' #457 - PAWF Special: Eva Braun's Mercedes-Benz by ???
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2011, 12:23:51 PM »
That's what I have :

This is Chassis #154133, spent for a MB-Sindelfingen W29-540K Cabriolet-A, rebodied in the early 50s. In the 70s this car was painted gold and mendaciously called 'The Eva Braun Car'.

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"Fact: the so-called “Eva Braun car” is a creation commissioned by the late Tom Barrett to get people’s attention at the time he started his car auction business. ( now Barret-Jackson)

According to Frank Barrett (no relation) of Toad Hall Books, who published for years “The Star” in the USA for the MBUSA-Club-members, in all likelyhood the car was made  in a bodyshop in California, perhaps on a old 540K chassis, however, since Tom Barrett never let anyone get too close to the car, even that can not be ascertained for sure. Neither is it known if this car had an engine or not.

Frank Barrett told me that he had seen the car exhibited, and saw right away that it was a fake.

All claims regarding the so-called golden “Eva Braun car” are absolutely preposterous, and technical nonsens.

Attached, the only picture I could find of Tom Barrett’s creation,….. which by the way had been repainted from gold to red….you bet that if it had really been gold plated, the car would have been left as is…much more in-your-face appeal than a mere red, don’t you think ?"

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Re: Arunas' #457 - PAWF Special: Eva Braun's Mercedes-Benz by ???
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2011, 12:46:32 PM »
What this should mean? ??? Could you explain, please?

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Re: Arunas' #457 - PAWF Special: Eva Braun's Mercedes-Benz by ???
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2011, 01:01:12 PM »
It's a 1950s USA bodyshop made car on an old 540K chassis,originally coachbuilt by Sindelfingen.

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Re: Arunas' #457 - PAWF Special: Eva Braun's Mercedes-Benz by ???
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2011, 01:39:31 PM »
It's a 1950s USA bodyshop made car on an old 540K chassis,originally coachbuilt by Sindelfingen.

So, this should mean the Eva Braun's car is just a fake by Americans? ???

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Re: Arunas' #457 - PAWF Special: Eva Braun's Mercedes-Benz by ???
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2011, 01:54:37 PM »
I guess so!  :-\

"An engaging story, but utter nonsense. Braun never owned a special-bodied Mercedes, and unlike his pal Mussolini, Hitler was no car guy. He was a dour vegetarian who cared little for automotive bling. His mistress Braun was a simpleton focused only on her beloved Fuehrer. The whole thing was reportedly a publicity stunt. The whereabouts of the car are unknown."

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Re: Arunas' #457 - PAWF Special: Eva Braun's Mercedes-Benz by ???
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2011, 03:44:02 PM »
Oh yes, this special metalflake custom dream of the 1950´s...

The only one who might have driven anithing alike this during the dark years over here might have been Göhring.

But I agree - this is pure fake...

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Re: Arunas' #457 - PAWF Special: Eva Braun's Mercedes-Benz by ???
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2011, 04:56:08 AM »
Shouldn't this topic be more correctly titled and moved to the Solved Section?
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Re: Arunas' #457 - PAWF Special: Eva Braun's Mercedes-Benz by ???
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2011, 05:07:48 AM »
point for joao moved to solved