Author Topic: Anyone recognize this one? Solved (Read 3289 times)

Arthur Dent · « **on:** July 25, 2007, 01:05:27 AM »

likely a 50s British "special" but which one?

lynxd67 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 25, 2007, 02:18:58 AM »

Did I see these photos on Pistonheads Arthur? I still reckon it's an Abbott.

Arthur Dent · « **Reply #2 on:** July 25, 2007, 09:23:42 AM »

I saw it over at British Car Forum - http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/322616/page/1#Post322616

But they got it from Pistonheads.

Interesting thing is the wheels - they familiar but I can't place them. Certainly not the usual Ford ones of most specials.

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #3 on:** July 26, 2007, 06:00:45 AM »

A painted Morris (Oxford?) wheel, perhaps.

Allan L · « **Reply #4 on:** July 26, 2007, 06:50:01 AM »

The wheels are a bit odd, certainly. Most wheels of that period had some gaps between the rim and the centre disc (as in this photo), where these are solid.

Allan L · « **Reply #5 on:** October 08, 2007, 08:44:36 AM »

Do you know what it is, yourself?

Arthur Dent · « **Reply #6 on:** October 09, 2007, 03:08:34 PM »

I don't myself. A mystery.

SeaLion · « **Reply #7 on:** October 09, 2007, 03:49:15 PM »

It is probably a home-made one-off.

The car have been for sale in July: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=417864

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This week's Classic Car Weekly pg22 advert of what appears to be same car sans trailer. Described as 1949 Morris bespoke soft top, Morris 6 chassis with Vauxhall engine. Up for sale @ 1500 quoting tel. no. 01902 (wherever that is).

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #8 on:** October 12, 2007, 01:09:22 PM »

Hi, it is very similar to the Rochdale Mk6...

D-type · « **Reply #9 on:** October 12, 2007, 05:05:30 PM »

I think the Rochdale had a fibreglass body. In which case the different shaped doors and door openings rule it out.

My feeling is it's one of those 1950's "Buy our fibreglass body and fit it to your rusted Bloggsmobile chassisin one weekend" [and spend the nextyear trying to sort out the details]

It has the look of an AC Buckland or Healey about it. But not with those doors!

Ray B. · « **Reply #10 on:** October 19, 2007, 07:35:54 AM »

I think the front and hood, at least, are those of the 1952 Healey Tickford, even if the Healey seems a bigger car. But the windshield and grille aren't the same, and I can't say about the rear from the single photo I've found.

alecwolf · « **Reply #11 on:** September 14, 2008, 01:20:59 PM »

This looks similar to the Peel P1000 shell for the Ford Ten chassis:

Oswald · « **Reply #12 on:** October 28, 2009, 10:01:20 AM »

It's not a Peel P1000. That is more rounded and has much larger doors with hidden hinges

Allan L · « **Reply #13 on:** October 28, 2009, 10:16:18 AM »

Quote from: Ray B. on October 19, 2007, 07:35:54 AM

I think the front and hood, at least, are those of the 1952 Healey Tickford, even if the Healey seems a bigger car. But the windshield and grille aren't the same, and I can't say about the rear from the single photo I've found.

What you posted (two years ago!) is an Alvis Healey, not a Tickford!

On that other forum it was found to be for sale as a Vauxhall-engined Morris - but still no nearer identifying the body.

Ray B. · « **Reply #14 on:** October 28, 2009, 12:49:31 PM »

shamrock · « **Reply #15 on:** October 29, 2009, 05:48:46 PM »

a paramount ?

biz5300 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 12, 2009, 05:18:55 PM »

buckler or fairthorpe?

woodinsight · « **Reply #17 on:** June 06, 2010, 02:03:29 PM »

I think I have a solution to this mystery.
Whilst browsing through some old (1955) magazines I came across the attached advertisement.
What I presume has happened here is that the body on the first car - the Turner Lea-Francis - has been placed on the Morris Special.
The mystery from Arthur Dent states that this is a Morris Special with a Vauxhall engine that ties up with the second car in the advert.
My answer to this conundrum is therefore a Morris Special with a Vauxhall engine constructed by Mr.McDougall of Wolverhampton in the 1950s.
Who built the body I don't know.
What happened to the Turner Lea-Francis chassis/engine is also unknown.
Hopefully the file is attached - if not I'll try again........

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #18 on:** June 06, 2010, 04:44:10 PM »

That is amazing!

Quote from: Allan L on October 28, 2009, 10:16:18 AM

Quote from: Ray B. on October 19, 2007, 07:35:54 AM
I think the front and hood, at least, are those of the 1952 Healey Tickford, even if the Healey seems a bigger car. But the windshield and grille aren't the same, and I can't say about the rear from the single photo I've found.
What you posted (two years ago!) is an Alvis Healey, not a Tickford!

On that other forum it was found to be for sale as a Vauxhall-engined Morris - but still no nearer identifying the body.

"This week's Classic Car Weekly pg22 advert of what appears to be same car sans trailer. Described as 1949 Morris bespoke soft top, Morris 6 chassis with Vauxhall engine. Up for sale @ 1500 quoting tel. no. 01902 (wherever that is)"

D-type · « **Reply #19 on:** June 06, 2010, 05:31:41 PM »

The car shown at http://www.turnersportscars.co.uk/ under "Photos by Chassis number" as chassis no 6 looks very like the second car in woodinsight's posting. So, did the pictures get juxtaposed and "our" car is the Morris Special? That could be a 'special' built by someone named Morris rather than a car built on a Morris chassis

Incidentally, has anybody with access to the DVLC computer investigated the registration?

woodinsight · « **Reply #20 on:** June 07, 2010, 02:48:52 AM »

I agree D-type, it would appear that the photos have been transposed at the type-setters.
The second photo is definitely that of Turner chassis no. 6.
However that still doesn't solve the mystery of who built this Morris Vauxhall special or what body moulding was used.
I'll keep searching.........

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #21 on:** September 09, 2010, 09:26:09 AM »

Bump...

woodinsight · « **Reply #22 on:** September 09, 2010, 01:22:57 PM »

By the way, with reference to my earlier post, the photos had been transposed as the advert had been corrected in the next issue of the magazine where I found it.
I'm still keeping an eye out on this one to try to solve where the body came from........

Allan L · « **Reply #23 on:** September 09, 2010, 04:42:09 PM »

Quote from: woodinsight on September 09, 2010, 01:22:57 PM

By the way, with reference to my earlier post, the photos had been transposed as the advert had been corrected in the next issue of the magazine where I found it.
I'm still keeping an eye out on this one to try to solve where the body came from........

Yes, quite.
I missed this bit of exchange in June or I would have pointed out that the Turner, still looking much like it did in that lower photo and carrying the same registration, was in Ivan Dutton's hands until recently.

woodinsight · « **Reply #24 on:** October 10, 2010, 05:23:20 PM »

I've recently come across this article in a magazine dated September 1986.
Although this is not the same car, the body bears a striking resemblance to the puzzle car.
The car in the article has a chassis no: RGB 1 and is largely Rover based with an SS engine.

I suspect someone built several? aluminium bodies in the 1950s for mounting on various chassis or perhaps he built them himself. It could be that the chassis no. refers to his initials.

The mystery deepens.........

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