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Solved: PN #50 -- Bergmann Orient Express, 1899
« on: February 10, 2010, 05:56:49 AM »
What's this car? Manufacturer, model name and model year will yield a point for you!
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Re: PN #50
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2010, 10:58:22 AM »
This one was probably too old for our rookies. How about our experts?
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Re: PN #50
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2010, 03:47:05 AM »
Professionals?
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Re: PN #50
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2010, 04:00:09 AM »
Looks like a Peugeot of about 1899
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Re: PN #50
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2010, 04:02:15 AM »
Year is spot on, but it's not a Peugeot.
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Re: PN #50
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2010, 04:14:52 AM »
Opel-Lutzmann?
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Re: PN #50
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2010, 04:16:39 AM »
No, not an Opel or a Lutzmann
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Re: PN #50
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2010, 04:46:50 AM »
There was a car, called Cyrano, made in Bergerac (!) that looks quite similar that was made under Lacoste patent...is it a Cyrano or a Lacoste-Battmann?
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Re: PN #50
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2010, 04:47:57 AM »
No, not one of those.
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Re: PN #50
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2010, 05:40:39 AM »
French?
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Re: PN #50
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2010, 05:55:24 AM »
Nope
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Re: PN #50
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2010, 01:59:13 AM »
First clue (and probably the last one as it is so helpful): there's a connection to a very famous train
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Re: PN #50
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2010, 03:36:12 AM »
If I get you right, it should be Orient Express by Bergmann Industriewerken then. At least I have found such a car among London-Brighton participants, although it was dated 1898 and looked different, but who said it was the only one Orient Express made? :D

EDIT: Now I've found one more shot. Was the model called Duchesse?
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Re: PN #50
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2010, 03:46:25 AM »
This is indeed an Orient Express from 1899 made by Bergmanns Industriewerke in Germany


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Re: PN #50
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2010, 08:26:07 AM »
Quote from: faksta on March 03, 2010, 03:36:12 AM
If I get you right, it should be Orient Express by Bergmann Industriewerken then. At least I have found such a car among London-Brighton participants, although it was dated 1898 and looked different, but who said it was the only one Orient Express made? :D
The "1898" OE that appeared on the Brighton run was never Dated by the VCC so the date ascribed by its owner is not to be relied on. Nor is its appearance!
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Re: Solved: PN #50 -- Bergmann Orient Express, 1899
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2010, 09:29:42 AM »
Thanks. Well, at least it looked different than a car on this advertisement or the one pictured at wikipedia (which is very similar to this one)...
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Re: Solved: PN #50 -- Bergmann Orient Express, 1899
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2010, 06:00:42 AM »
Bergmann I believe is - in this case - not part of the name of the car (see the advert as well)
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Re: Solved: PN #50 -- Bergmann Orient Express, 1899
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2013, 02:46:46 PM »
I've just run across a source that states while the car was marketed in the UK, it was built by Bergmann Industriewerken (or Industriewerke...I don't know which is correct) in Gaggenau.
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