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Who built this car and when? A point is offered for the right answer.
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Re: PN #108
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2010, 01:13:27 AM »
Experts?
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Re: PN #108
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2010, 05:05:05 AM »
Beetle-base?

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Re: PN #108
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2010, 05:14:15 AM »
Austrian?
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Re: PN #108
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2010, 08:36:49 AM »
Not Beetle-based and it was not made in Austria
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Re: PN #108
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2010, 06:38:58 AM »
Professionals?
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Re: PN #108
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2010, 07:08:20 AM »
looking at the plate it should be German, then.

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Re: PN #108
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2010, 07:55:24 AM »
Yes, this one is from Germany.
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Re: PN #108
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2010, 11:47:00 AM »
Maico Champion? Maybe a race special?
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Re: PN #108
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2010, 01:13:06 PM »
No it is not a Maico Champion
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Re: PN #108
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2010, 01:32:52 PM »
One-off-home-built, again?
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Re: PN #108
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2010, 01:36:24 PM »
Yes  :-[
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Re: PN #108
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2010, 01:57:20 PM »
As I can't find it in "our" source it will be a hard nut to crack, I'm afraid...

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Re: PN #108
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2010, 02:32:47 PM »
Yes, it was featured in a period magazine - but I know that sooner or later someone will find it :)
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Re: PN #108
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2010, 05:15:32 PM »
Pure incidence- but I´ve found it in "Rollerei und Mobil" issue 7/56:

it is a selfbuilt little sports machine that first had a 350ccm MAG engine and later a 12.5 PS 400 ccm Ilo WEGR 2/200 engine.
Parts were used from BMW Dixi, Opel kadett, Opel Olympia, Lloyd etc...

The builder was a certain Mr. Schirdewahn who drove this little thing at various events:
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Re: PN #108
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2010, 05:18:37 PM »
I like the "Eigenbau" badge! :D

Seems this car was built somewhere in "Niedersachsen" (BN = Lower Saxony)
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Re: PN #108
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2010, 06:02:22 AM »
Bump....

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Re: PN #108
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2010, 07:23:21 AM »
Thanks PJ, I have a serious backlog of puzzles to browse through. I'll try to clear it in a week or so.

And Grobmotorix - oops, you did it again!!! Congratulations  :applause:
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Re: Solved: PN #108 - Schirdewahn's Eigenbau (self-built) microcar
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2011, 02:36:12 AM »
Better pictures:

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Re: Solved: PN #108 - Schirdewahn's Eigenbau (self-built) microcar
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2011, 04:22:19 AM »
Wow, nice! Where did you find these? Can you PM me the source please?
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Re: Solved: PN #108 - Schirdewahn's Eigenbau (self-built) microcar
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2011, 11:16:27 AM »
This car was actually called Schirdewahn ESD 1.

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Re: Solved: PN #108 - Schirdewahn's Eigenbau (self-built) microcar
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2012, 11:49:35 AM »
And a view into the engine compartment with the 400 cc Ilo:

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Re: Solved: PN #108 - Schirdewahn's Eigenbau (self-built) microcar
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Re: Solved: PN #108 - Schirdewahn's Eigenbau (self-built) microcar
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2014, 12:51:50 PM »
Here´s the chassis:

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Re: Solved: PN #108 - Schirdewahn's Eigenbau (self-built) microcar
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2014, 10:06:24 AM »
A (small) picture.
Apparently it's called the ESD1, but maybe it only became that after the ESD2 appeared..
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