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Offline Paul Jaray

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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2010, 07:07:57 AM »
Not Giannini...
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2010, 07:23:34 AM »
Moretti?
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2010, 08:14:03 AM »
Not Moretti...
ASA - Abarth - ISO were somewhat closer....
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2010, 09:19:34 AM »
Conrero?
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2010, 09:29:03 AM »
Not Conrero...
We are talking about a pretty known name, like Abarth or ISO ...and a regular maker...
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2010, 09:33:46 AM »
OSI?
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2010, 09:38:10 AM »
Not OSI...this maker is quite a milestone....for different reasons...
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #32 on: June 18, 2010, 11:00:54 AM »
Quote from: Paul Jaray on June 18, 2010, 09:29:03 AM
Not Conrero...
We are talking about a pretty known name, like Abarth or ISO ...and a regular maker...

Alfa Romeo?
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2010, 11:06:21 AM »
Less known and less active...
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2010, 11:18:42 AM »
Stanguellini?
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2010, 11:29:30 AM »
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If I had to decide, I won't call it an Etceterini, but ...
Not a Stanguellini...(I would definetly call a Stanguellini an Etceterini  ;D )
You cannot love cars without knowing these cars...
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2010, 11:31:45 AM »
De Tomaso?
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2010, 11:34:46 AM »
Not De Tomaso.
I will stress 2 very important clues:
"Fiat based"  and  "a milestone"... 
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2010, 11:43:37 AM »
Cisitalia?
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2010, 11:46:43 AM »
Autobianchi?!
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2010, 11:48:31 AM »
Quote from: 75america on June 18, 2010, 11:43:37 AM
Cisitalia?
:applause:
..and for the point, I need a model name and a year.
Cisitalia XXXX XXXXXXXXXXX 19XX
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #41 on: June 18, 2010, 12:16:49 PM »
Cisitalia was also one of my first ideas but after I trawled through all the websites dedicated to them and found nothing like it I decided that couldn't be the answer, hence all the daft suggestions...!
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2010, 12:21:10 PM »
This car is a mistery...the name is quite easy, expecially knowing that it was Fiat (that Fiat) based and....
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2010, 03:51:10 PM »
the year is mid 50s (not '55) and there is a number and a race in the name...
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2010, 04:30:42 PM »
Millemiglia?
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2010, 04:35:51 PM »
So the year must be 1954 or 1956.
According to the catalogue raisonné Cisitalia, there was no Cisitalia participating in the Mille Miglia of 1954 and 1956,
but in 1954, a Cisitalia was participating in the Targa Florio. 
I do not know which one, but in 1954 the 33DF Voloradenta was made.
So my guess: 33DF TargaFlorio 1954
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2010, 05:04:08 PM »
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I won't lock it for the maker alone and 1 point will go to the Maker-Model-Year answer and another 1 for any support to that guess.
Quote from: Arunas on June 18, 2010, 04:30:42 PM
Millemiglia?
Partially correct.
Quote from: 75america on June 18, 2010, 04:35:51 PM
So the year must be 1954 or 1956.
According to the catalogue raisonné Cisitalia, there was no Cisitalia participating in the Mille Miglia of 1954 and 1956,
but in 1954, a Cisitalia was participating in the Targa Florio. 
I do not know which one, but in 1954 the 33DF Voloradenta was made.
So my guess: 33DF TargaFlorio 1954
The year is correct.
This model is unknown, is probably a customized version.
The final answer is:
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #47 on: June 18, 2010, 05:10:10 PM »
 ???

Cisitalia 1100 Mille Miglia 1954 ?
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #48 on: June 18, 2010, 05:39:38 PM »
Yes, that's the name.
This car was for sale in the 70s:
"Cisitalia 1100 Millemiglia 1954, one-off, modernized."

There is no reference to the coachbuilder...I'll give you a point now and wait for any additional info for another point.
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Re: PJ - 334
« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2010, 10:50:15 AM »
Was this raced by Casales?
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