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1 point for who will be able to tell me which car was this: make, model and year.
I do not know who modified it, and I don't think it's a known coachbuilder...
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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2010, 04:44:45 AM »
Renault-based?
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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2010, 04:47:38 AM »
Citroen 2CV?

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2010, 05:40:02 AM »
No Skoda...
No Renault...
No Citroen...

I won't lock it for any incomplete guess...make\model and year...

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2010, 07:07:43 AM »
Looks British; perhaps it's based on an Austin.
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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2010, 02:40:00 PM »
Not Austin...

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2010, 02:41:55 PM »
.. but still British?

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2010, 02:43:17 PM »
...not British...

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2010, 02:44:02 PM »
from Europe?

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2010, 02:45:42 PM »
Yes...

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2010, 03:11:54 PM »
Fiat based?

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2010, 03:24:08 PM »
Yes...

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2010, 03:44:23 PM »
Production car?

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2010, 03:56:55 PM »
This car is the obscure work of an unknown coachbuilder.
I have the make (Fiat) model (?) and year (?) of the donor car.

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2010, 04:05:28 PM »
This might be older as it looks. I go for an early 1950 body on a Fiat 508 C chassis....?

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2010, 04:11:54 PM »
Not 1950 and not 508C.

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2010, 04:30:34 PM »
Topolino?

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2010, 04:45:53 PM »
Yes...

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2010, 05:00:38 PM »
pre-war?

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2010, 05:33:00 PM »
Not post-war.

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2010, 05:37:24 PM »
so it is during the war? (by the way, what a bad way of timing, as in Europe we are talking about at least 2 rather big wars during the life of the car.

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2010, 05:47:03 PM »
Assuming war-time from 1939 to 1945, this model was made in that time range.

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2010, 06:33:48 PM »
I found this, but it's in Italian and google makes a hopeless translation of it:

"questo settore ha una varietà di modelli incredibile. Basti pensare che il giovane Elio Zagato per il suo esordio in corsa nel primissimo dopoguerra, smantellò una Topolino furgoncino in uso nella sua carrozzerie, trasformandola in una sport barchetta. La Topolino da corsa oltre che avvicinare allo sport automobilistico un vero esercito di dilettanti, fu anche trampolino di lancio di piloti divenuti in seguito dei grandi campioni fino a stringere fra le mani il volante di una Formula 1."

Does it say that Elio Zagato made a Topolino Furgoncino based barchetta during the war?

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2010, 06:44:51 PM »
Yes, he took aTopolino Furgoncino in use in his workshop and made a sport barchetta out of that.
This is much easier: I have only a model name and a year for this car, and I don't know who made it.
For a point you just have to complete the correct model: Fiat xxxx Topolino 19xx.

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Re: PJ- 310 - Just for Fun
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2010, 03:38:05 AM »
1939 or early 1940 (when Italy was not involved yet in the war)?