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Title: Solved -PJ298- Cockerell Vierzylinder 1924
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 14, 2010, 03:45:26 PM
Know what it is?

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Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 30, 2010, 08:18:57 AM
Not electric.
Not from Tahiti.
Not a 3-wheeler.
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: faksta on March 31, 2010, 03:25:45 PM
Must be wooden then  :D
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 31, 2010, 03:31:43 PM
 :disbelief:
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: faksta on March 31, 2010, 03:39:10 PM
Is it maybe a French cyclecar?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 31, 2010, 03:51:57 PM
Not French...
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: pnegyesi on April 02, 2010, 12:54:11 PM
Asian?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 02, 2010, 01:34:37 PM
Not Asian..
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: pnegyesi on April 02, 2010, 01:38:20 PM
USA?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 02, 2010, 01:41:16 PM
Not from there...
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 19, 2010, 12:11:38 PM
Once you have the place, the name will follow quite easily...
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: pnegyesi on April 19, 2010, 12:59:24 PM
European?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 19, 2010, 01:11:31 PM
Yes!
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: pnegyesi on April 19, 2010, 01:17:41 PM
North European?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 19, 2010, 01:21:25 PM
Germany.
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 19, 2010, 01:26:23 PM
You was going to find the nation eventually and I won't be home till tomorrow...now you can look for this name!
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: pnegyesi on April 19, 2010, 01:52:32 PM
Fafag?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 20, 2010, 02:33:36 AM
nope...
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: D-type on April 21, 2010, 03:38:38 PM
Stating the obvious: it's right-hand drive.

So, British?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 21, 2010, 03:39:37 PM
More obvious than that...it's written few lines above!
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: guido66 on April 21, 2010, 03:51:17 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 19, 2010, 12:11:38 PM
Once you have the place, the name will follow quite easily...

Are the make and the name of the place it comes from the same?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 21, 2010, 04:32:37 PM
Nope...
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: D-type on April 22, 2010, 04:32:08 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 21, 2010, 03:39:37 PM
More obvious than that...it's written few lines above!
DOH!  :doh:


How did I miss that?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: pnegyesi on April 26, 2010, 12:02:27 AM
Was this created in a big city, like Berlin?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2010, 06:43:27 AM
Not Berlin, but quite big.
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Allemano on April 26, 2010, 07:06:44 AM
from Monaco? ;)
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: pnegyesi on April 26, 2010, 07:43:58 AM
Cologne?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2010, 07:58:24 AM
Quote from: Allemano on April 26, 2010, 07:06:44 AM
from Monaco? ;)
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: pnegyesi on April 26, 2010, 08:00:37 AM
When was Monaco part of Germany? Or did I miss something?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2010, 08:34:12 AM
 ;)
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco_di_Baviera
Munich (or München) to be precise.
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: pnegyesi on April 26, 2010, 08:47:46 AM
Is it a 2-seater from B.A.W (Bayerische Automobilwerk)?

A Mayrette by Karl Mayr?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2010, 09:02:56 AM
No
No
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: pnegyesi on April 26, 2010, 09:35:19 AM
Minimus Eropa?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2010, 09:36:37 AM
Nope..
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: pnegyesi on April 26, 2010, 09:49:51 AM
SHW prototype built by BMW?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Allemano on April 26, 2010, 09:59:00 AM
Maja Motorwerke A.G. with 500cc BMW engine?....or...
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2010, 10:06:25 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on April 26, 2010, 09:49:51 AM
SHW prototype built by BMW?
Not BMW
Quote from: Allemano on April 26, 2010, 09:59:00 AM
Maja Motorwerke A.G. with 500cc BMW engine?....or...
Not Maja...
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Allemano on April 26, 2010, 10:07:28 AM
Luwo = Ludwig & Wolzogen?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2010, 10:09:00 AM
Nope...
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Allemano on April 26, 2010, 10:25:13 AM
Schuricht?
(though pnegyesi has mentioned B.A.W)
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2010, 10:43:47 AM
Nope...
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Allemano on April 26, 2010, 10:59:26 AM
Was it built in a small series or remained it one of a kind?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Allemano on April 26, 2010, 11:00:22 AM
time frame 1920-1925?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2010, 11:20:43 AM
The time range is correct for this car.
The builder made different cars, some of them reached a very limited production, others were just one-offs.
I'm not sure this one was produced.
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Allemano on April 26, 2010, 11:48:33 AM
Were these cars entirely built in Munich?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Allemano on April 26, 2010, 12:10:21 PM
Diana? (though only known for threewheelers I believe)
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2010, 12:17:06 PM
Quote from: Allemano on April 26, 2010, 11:48:33 AM
Were these cars entirely built in Munich?
I don't know, I wasn't there...
Quote from: Allemano on April 26, 2010, 12:10:21 PM
Diana? (though only known for threewheelers I believe)
Not Diana...
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Allemano on April 26, 2010, 12:18:55 PM
one of the Stollewagen made by Martin Stolle?
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Allemano on April 26, 2010, 12:19:46 PM
It's the Gockerell Vierzylinder! ;)
Title: Re: PJ - 298
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2010, 12:41:31 PM
Yes, and misteriously called Cockerell in many sources.
This car, 904cc, was built in 1924 and following cars had 2, 5, 6 or 8 cylinerds, FWD or RWD, 4-wheelers or 3-wheelers... it seems like Mr. Friedrich Gockerell was not sure about the best way to proceed!
Well done, another point for you!
Title: Re: Solved -PJ298- Cockerell Vierzylinder 1924
Post by: Allemano on April 26, 2010, 12:49:18 PM
The last evolution of the Gockerell car had a V8 two-stroke engine (!). Friedrich Gockerell made his experiences while crossing the Alps with this car and he modified it step by step..

I'm not sure if this car wasn't built in Munich, but in Nuremberg
Title: Re: Solved -PJ298- Cockerell Vierzylinder 1924
Post by: grobmotorix on November 04, 2018, 09:23:02 AM
No visible puzzle photo - here in a bit better resolution: