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Re: Barrett's #60
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2010, 08:47:30 AM »
Trabant?

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Re: Barrett's #60
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2010, 09:27:59 AM »
neither Mikrus nor Trabant

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Re: Barrett's #60
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2010, 09:34:36 AM »
Messerschmitt?
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Re: Barrett's #60
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2010, 01:03:30 PM »
Champion/Maico?

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Re: Barrett's #60
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2010, 02:40:06 PM »
None of those..... would most people know what a Champion looked like? that was a big clue!

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Re: Barrett's #60
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2010, 03:09:48 PM »
I know! - that was why I stupidly suggested Trabant on the spur of the moment!
Perhaps if the country where it hails from can be established then we can make some progress.
Germany?

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Re: Barrett's #60
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2010, 03:21:59 PM »
you're right, establishing the country will make it very easy indeed!
not Germany, but close by...

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Re: Barrett's #60
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2010, 03:39:14 PM »
Steyr-Puch - often confused with Fiat?

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Re: Barrett's #60
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2010, 03:55:38 PM »
That's the one!
I'll lock it for you, it should be easy now to find the designation and year of this prototype

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Re: Barrett's #60
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2010, 05:37:30 PM »
a hint - this is available on the internet with a very easy search query, within the first 5 pages of results.....

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Re: Barrett's #60
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2010, 05:43:38 PM »
Don't make it too easy, there are still some Pro's in waiting position...;D

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Re: Barrett's #60
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2010, 05:48:44 PM »
Well i didn't find it on the Internet but I think this may be the U-1 prototype built in in 1954 designed by Erich Ledwinka

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Re: Barrett's #60
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2010, 07:23:02 PM »
It is indeed the Steyr-Puch U1 prototype. I'm not sure if it was built in 1953 or '54, as the project was started in 1952 and the second quite different U2 was built in late '54.
This was the first prototype for a Steyr passenger car, two others were built before they decided to use the Fiat 500 bodyshell. this one had a motorcycle-derived two stroke engine that I believe was different from the motor they ended up using in the production car.

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Re: Barrett's #60
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2010, 04:34:57 AM »
Steyr-Puch - often confused with Fiat?

I actually wrote 'Fiat 500' for my Reply #27 but changed it to Messerschmitt on a whim before you'd seen it.
Now I understand your comment about most people being wrong about it if they thought it was a Fiat!
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Re: Barrett's #60 - Solved - Steyr-Puch U1 Prototype, 1953 or 1954
« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2011, 03:16:59 PM »
Another pic:

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Re: Barrett's #60 - Solved - Steyr-Puch U1 Prototype, 1953 or 1954
« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2011, 12:47:03 PM »
A 'Peace' logo on the hood — quite progressive..

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Re: Barrett's #60 - Solved - Steyr-Puch U1 Prototype, 1953 or 1954
« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2011, 01:40:40 PM »
 :D

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Re: Barrett's #60 - Solved - Steyr-Puch U1 Prototype, 1953 or 1954
« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2013, 11:28:43 AM »
It had an interesting "door" mechanism: