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Title: Solved: A Day At The Races - solved by faksta and many others
Post by: Allemano on January 31, 2010, 03:43:02 PM
Do you know these racing cars?
As usual: one point for each correct guess!
Points will be awarded when everything's finished
Happy puzzling!


(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer01.jpg)
01 (Lister) Apache Special (streamliner)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer02.jpg)
02 Scorpion by Troutman and Barnes (white12)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer03.jpg)
03 Merlyn F100 (faksta)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer04.jpg)
04 Bellco 72D (faksta)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer05.jpg)
05 Willment Mysteron BRM (Paul Jaray)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer06.jpg)
06 1966 Landar R6 (Oswald)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer07.jpg)
07 1970 Sauber C1 (white12)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer08.jpg)
08 AMS - AMS Simonetti 1000 (faksta)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer09.jpg)
09 1970 BLF proto (faksta)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer10.jpg)
10 Sbarro CanAm (faksta)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer11.jpg)
11 1951 Dat King 750 (Datsun 'King' 750 by Yuichi Ohta) (faksta)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer12.jpg)
12 Kojima KE007 (faksta)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer13.jpg)
13 1972 Connew Formula 1 (metalshapes)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer14.jpg)
14 Lou Molina's Monza Repco-Holden (Paul Jaray)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer15.jpg)
15 Mana 06-FJ (faksta)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer16.jpg)
16 Cooper Jaguar (D-type)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer17.jpg)
17 McNamara Ford Capri (faksta)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer18.jpg)
18 Berta LR SP (white12)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer19.jpg)
19 WM P70 1971 (Hubert)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Racing%20cars/racer20.jpg)
20 Snob's Corvair (faksta)
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 31, 2010, 04:29:32 PM
Great puzzle!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on January 31, 2010, 04:44:08 PM
:)
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 01, 2010, 04:11:38 AM
Wow - nice!
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Hubert on February 04, 2010, 03:10:06 AM
Nr 19 : WM P70 1971 (Peugeot engine).
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 04, 2010, 03:12:06 AM
Quote from: Hubert on February 04, 2010, 03:10:06 AM
Nr 19 : WM P70 1971 (Peugeot engine).
Correct! :)
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on February 05, 2010, 09:39:27 AM
Hurray! Thanks, All ;) More like this one, please guys! I'll post something similar soon - almost all my puzzles are finished already.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 09, 2010, 04:32:57 AM
Please be patient Pros! First the Expert should take a look at this...
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Oswald on February 09, 2010, 06:38:31 AM
06 is a Landar R6.
This one is of 1966 and is raced here by Tim Dyke at either Prescott or Oulton Park.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 09, 2010, 08:11:17 AM
Quote from: Oswald on February 09, 2010, 06:38:31 AM
06 is a Landar R6.
This one is of 1966 and is raced here by Tim Dyke at either Prescott or Oulton Park.
Right you are! I believe this wasn't the easiest one...
I have it only as '1966 Landar', but I guess you know what you're talking about.  :)
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: metalshapes on February 09, 2010, 11:28:30 AM
#13 - Connew F1.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 09, 2010, 01:30:42 PM
Quote from: metalshapes on February 09, 2010, 11:28:30 AM
#13 - Connew F1.
Yes! :)
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: D-type on February 09, 2010, 02:38:02 PM
#11 Maserati 4CL
#16 Cooper-Jaguar
#17 "Cologne" Capri
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 09, 2010, 02:50:55 PM
Quote from: D-type on February 09, 2010, 02:38:02 PM
#11 Maserati 4CL
#16 Cooper-Jaguar
#17 "Cologne" Capri

#11 Maserati 4CL :shakehead:
#16 Cooper-Jaguar  :nod:
#17 "Cologne" Capri – :shakehead: not the name I have
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: metalshapes on February 09, 2010, 02:59:35 PM
#17 is not a regular Cologne built car.

They didnt have a rear wing, the airdam was different, and the wheelaches look more like the earlyer RS 2300 ones.

Could it be one of the Allard converted ones?

They built some with Mustang V8's in them.

Edit.

I think they gave them some weird name like "Mustapi", or "Caprang", or something like that...
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 09, 2010, 03:11:12 PM
Got no infos whether it was equipped with a V8 engine, but I believe it was not.
What I know for sure is that it's not an Allard conversion.

EDIT: none of the mongrel names you've mentioned.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: white12 on February 09, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
#02 Scorpion built by Troutman and Barnes, chevy ebgined.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 09, 2010, 03:17:11 PM
Quote from: white12 on February 09, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
#02 Scorpion built by Troutman and Barnes, chevy engined.
Indeed! Very good!  :)
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: gilescooperuk on February 09, 2010, 05:31:42 PM
17 - Zakspeed Capri?
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 09, 2010, 05:38:58 PM
Quote from: gilescooperuk on February 09, 2010, 05:31:42 PM
17 - Zakspeed Capri?
:shakehead:
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: white12 on February 10, 2010, 05:04:42 AM
# 18 Berta LR SP from Argentina
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 10, 2010, 05:16:37 AM
Quote from: white12 on February 10, 2010, 05:04:42 AM
# 18 Berta LR SP from Argentina

Correct!
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on February 11, 2010, 03:56:16 PM
Cooper should be T33 then
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: D-type on February 11, 2010, 06:36:42 PM
Quote from: faksta on February 11, 2010, 03:56:16 PM
Cooper should be T33 then
Yes, but remember that many Cooper type numbers are retrospective having been developed by writers to identify the various models.

The same photo appears in  Doug Nye's Powered by Jaguar and the caption says it shows John Cooper in the first Cooper-Jaguar, chassis number CJ-1-54, outside Cooper's Surbiton factory.  The "CJ" chassis designation suggests that, at the time they made it, Cooper thought of it as the Cooper-Jaguar.


No idea about any of the others though - not in any of my limited collection of books
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: kocie_ruchy on February 14, 2010, 08:05:46 PM
05 looks to me like a Drogo-designed car, am I right?
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 15, 2010, 03:17:13 AM
Quote from: kocie_ruchy on February 14, 2010, 08:05:46 PM
05 looks to me like a Drogo-designed car, am I right?
It's not Drogo designed.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 16, 2010, 09:15:34 AM
I believe the Pros have already sharpened their knives...?
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 16, 2010, 09:50:12 AM
Indeed. Only problem is, photobucket images are blocked at the office, and my memory is not photographic.  :P
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 16, 2010, 09:53:38 AM
It's not already moved.
Will wait a few hours if you want..
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: white12 on February 18, 2010, 09:42:42 AM
07# Sauber C1
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Ultra on February 18, 2010, 02:11:22 PM
Put this sucker up about 12 hrs from now and the fish will be jumpin'!!!!!  :hah:
:tasty:
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 19, 2010, 04:49:45 AM
Quote from: white12 on February 18, 2010, 09:42:42 AM
07# Sauber C1
Yes!
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: streamliner on February 19, 2010, 04:39:04 PM
01:  Apache Special (Lister) Chevy Powered
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 19, 2010, 05:41:21 PM
Quote from: streamliner on February 19, 2010, 04:39:04 PM
01:  Apache Special (Lister) Chevy Powered

Yes!
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 21, 2010, 06:49:44 AM
Now it's up to you Pro's.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 21, 2010, 07:08:26 AM
racer05: Willment Mysteron BRM
racer08: AMS ?
racer14: Lou Molina's Monza Holden sports car
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 21, 2010, 07:21:29 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 21, 2010, 07:08:26 AM
racer05: Willment Mysteron BRM
racer08: AMS ?
racer14: Lou Molina's Monza Holden sports car

#05 :nod:
#08 :shakehead:
#14 :nod: correct, though I have it with a slightly different name... (...... Holden) Yours till your next reply!
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 21, 2010, 07:35:17 AM
I suppose Repco-Holden.
(but another source calls it Decca-Holden, thas is a different car, I think)
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 21, 2010, 07:40:25 AM
Yes, I have it as "Repco Holden"!
Anyway – the point will be yours!
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on February 21, 2010, 08:14:33 AM
#4 - Bellco 72D
#11 is Japanese, probably 500cc car, but I remember nothing about it. Maybe it was called Wasp or Hornet, I can't find it back...
#12 - Kojima KE007
#15 - Mana 06-FJ
#20 - Snob's Corvair
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 21, 2010, 08:24:21 AM
Quote from: faksta on February 21, 2010, 08:14:33 AM
#4 - Bellco 72D
#11 is Japanese, probably 500cc car, but I remember nothing about it. Maybe it was called Wasp or Hornet, I can't find it back...
#12 - Kojima KE007
#15 - Mana 06-FJ
#20 - Snob's Corvair

#04 :nod:
#11 correct, but I got to know the name... :-\
#12 :nod:
#15 :nod:
#20 :nod:

great performance faksta! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on February 21, 2010, 08:25:32 AM
#10 - Sbarro-Ford 4.7 from 1969

I'll try to find that little Japanese again - I was almost sure I saved it somewhere, but seems I didn't.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 21, 2010, 08:29:53 AM
Quote from: faksta on February 21, 2010, 08:25:32 AM
#10 - Sbarro-Ford 4.7 from 1969

Correct, but I have it with another (very simple) name and this particular car has not a Ford engine as my source reports!
Yours till your next reply!
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on February 21, 2010, 08:33:36 AM
Must be Sbarro CanAm then
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 21, 2010, 08:36:00 AM
Quote from: faksta on February 21, 2010, 08:33:36 AM
Must be Sbarro CanAm then
Yes! Like I've said this particular wasn't equipped with a Ford engine..
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 21, 2010, 08:43:23 AM
BTW: "A Day At The Races II" is in the pipeline. (to comfort those which weren't successful this time)
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on February 21, 2010, 08:45:43 AM
Mine will be as well on air soon, if you don't mind  :)
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 21, 2010, 08:51:33 AM
Quote from: faksta on February 21, 2010, 08:45:43 AM
Mine will be as well on air soon, if you don't mind  :)
Okay, you go first, but promise don't let us wait too long! ;)

Do you find the right engine for the Sbarro CanAm? (you'll get the point anyway!)
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on February 21, 2010, 09:02:44 AM
OK, I'll try to compile it today.

The Sbarro should be powered by Chevy 7-liter plant, if not Ford, I guess.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 21, 2010, 09:06:47 AM
Quote from: faksta on February 21, 2010, 09:02:44 AM
OK, I'll try to compile it today.

The Sbarro should be powered by Chevy 7-liter plant, if not Ford, I guess.
I'm looking forward to your puzzle!

And yes, it's indeed the Chevy powered Sbarro CanAM! :)
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on February 21, 2010, 11:06:38 AM
#8 is indeed an AMS according to my info, although it is featured as AMS - Simonetti 1000 Cosworth in my folder (I guess I'll need to rename it to AMS 1000 Cosworth as well). As far as I know AMS stood for Automobili Motori Simonetti.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 21, 2010, 11:33:37 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 21, 2010, 07:08:26 AM
racer05: Willment Mysteron BRM
racer08: AMS ?
racer14: Lou Molina's Monza Holden sports car

Must correct myself.
#08 is indeed an AMS racer, but saved it under "Simonetti 1000 sport prototipo" not knowing that AMS stands for "Automobili Motori Simonetti".
So, apologize Mr Jaray!  :-\
As faksta identified this car completely it will be him who's mentioned as the solver.
Nevertheless I'll give PJ one point compensation.. (now – not at the end)
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 21, 2010, 11:54:10 AM
Is 17 a Ford Capri Perana?
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 21, 2010, 11:57:44 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on February 21, 2010, 11:54:10 AM
Is 17 a Ford Capri Perana?
Not that!
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 21, 2010, 12:13:41 PM
thank you, I feel ...compensated!
(BTW: AMS should stand for "Attrezzature Meccaniche Speciali" formed by Ing. Tancredi Simonetti when he left ATS "Automobili Turismo Sport")
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on February 21, 2010, 12:26:02 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 21, 2010, 12:13:41 PM
thank you, I feel ...compensated!
(BTW: AMS should stand for "Attrezzature Meccaniche Speciali" formed by Ing. Tancredi Simonetti when he left ATS "Automobili Turismo Sport")
Seems you have the last word on this! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on February 21, 2010, 12:33:40 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 21, 2010, 12:13:41 PM
thank you, I feel ...compensated!
(BTW: AMS should stand for "Attrezzature Meccaniche Speciali" formed by Ing. Tancredi Simonetti when he left ATS "Automobili Turismo Sport")

Thanks for correction. I took 'my' version of AMS full name from a respected place, though.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on March 07, 2010, 02:01:56 PM
I hope it's OK that I ask several questions at once, because they are about different cars...

#3 - is it Ford powered? Judging by the cars around and my memory, which nevertheless can't remember any other moments.
#9 - French hillclimb vehicle?
#11- we have already established that it is a small displacement Japanese formula, but is it Honda engined?
#17 - in my opinion it has quite an unusual styling for an LHD car. I would expect something like this to come from South Africa od Australia. Maybe this one is Canadian?
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on March 07, 2010, 05:43:45 PM
#3 is a Merlyn F100 - Ford from either 1969 or 1970 - a car that competed in an almost forgotten Formula F100 series.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on March 08, 2010, 08:22:10 AM
Quote from: faksta on March 07, 2010, 05:43:45 PM
#3 is a Merlyn F100 - Ford from either 1969 or 1970 - a car that competed in an almost forgotten Formula F100 series.
:)
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on March 08, 2010, 08:35:16 AM
Quote from: faksta on March 07, 2010, 02:01:56 PM
I hope it's OK that I ask several questions at once, because they are about different cars...

#3 - is it Ford powered? Judging by the cars around and my memory, which nevertheless can't remember any other moments.
#9 - French hillclimb vehicle?
#11- we have already established that it is a small displacement Japanese formula, but is it Honda engined?
#17 - in my opinion it has quite an unusual styling for an LHD car. I would expect something like this to come from South Africa od Australia. Maybe this one is Canadian?
#9 It's French and raced at hillclimbs
#11 is not a Honda
#17 is from none of the countries you've mentioned
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on March 08, 2010, 09:08:51 AM
#11 - maybe a Suzuki engine then? AFAIR it was a unit from a nowadays major car maker.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on March 08, 2010, 09:12:11 AM
Quote from: faksta on March 08, 2010, 09:08:51 AM
#11 - maybe a Suzuki engine then? AFAIR it was a unit from a nowadays major car maker.

It's indeed from one of the major companies, but it isn't a Suzuki.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on April 12, 2010, 08:34:45 AM
#17 from a famous racing team

#11 famous Japanese car producer – not obscure at all!
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on April 12, 2010, 08:48:26 AM
#11 - Daihatsu Engine?
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on April 12, 2010, 08:57:49 AM
my source reports another company..
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on April 12, 2010, 08:59:26 AM
#09 is a little more tricky..

Here's a picture what it looks today:
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on April 12, 2010, 09:02:09 AM
I couldn't find it since then :( Damn, I was almost sure I have saved the picture and some info or at least a link somewhere!

Datsun/Nissan/Prince?
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on April 12, 2010, 09:12:18 AM
Datsun/Nissan/Prince is correct. (there wasn't too much left ;))
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on April 12, 2010, 09:58:07 AM
The tricky one (#9) is a Naja 1300?

Forget it! It's called Piller NSU.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on April 12, 2010, 10:05:36 AM
Quote from: faksta on April 12, 2010, 09:58:07 AM
It's called Piller NSU.

:shakehead:
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on April 12, 2010, 10:10:19 AM
 :o I'll need to find another source then...

...or read more careful the existing one, expecially when there's a different name a couple messages further. What about BLF?
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on April 12, 2010, 10:13:01 AM
Clue: it was equipped with a French powerplant.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on April 12, 2010, 10:15:16 AM
^^^ :D I didn't think you would be faster. I've edited my previous post.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on April 12, 2010, 10:35:11 AM
Quote from: faksta on April 12, 2010, 10:10:19 AM
What about BLF?

 :faint: :applause:

Stunning!
You've found it! The rest should be duck soup now.
And hurry as I have the 2nd race puzzle in the pipeline!  ;)
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on April 14, 2010, 03:01:43 PM
Am I right saying that #11 was the first ever Datsun engined racing car? I think it was reported as such in that source...
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on April 14, 2010, 03:17:52 PM
Almost correct. Not the first Datsun racing car, but the first one which won races...
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on April 14, 2010, 03:49:05 PM
Oh my... I think I've found it. It is called Datsun Midget. It has indeed won a race in 1936 (although to me it looks a mere 10 years younger, especially for a lower class formula...). I'm nearly sure it is not the car's given name, though. On a complete picture there's some 3-digit name specified for this car, but I can't read it properly. Something like MSM Datsun or MSH Datsun...

Moreover, I suppose there may even be a mistake in this picture identification in my source. Watch the attached picture: it is made in 1936 (June 7, 1936 as far as I understood), the car is a midget and is powered by 747cc Datsun engine (like the one we speak about). And it has a number of cups near it. I believe THIS is actually a 1936 Datsun winner... I may be mistaken of course, but now I feel like that.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on April 14, 2010, 04:10:52 PM
Done?  :)
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on April 14, 2010, 04:13:35 PM
Be that as it may. I know this Datsun Midget from two different sources. I declare #11 solved as long someone else has a better idea...

I've found a bigger pic. Not easy to identify, but think there's written "Model AR"

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/midgetracer.jpg)
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on April 14, 2010, 04:16:30 PM
Quote from: faksta on April 14, 2010, 04:10:52 PM
Done?  :)

Yes it's done!! :applause:

A new one comes soon!
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: faksta on April 14, 2010, 04:20:04 PM
Hurraaaah!!! Will be waiting for a second part.
Title: Re: A Day At The Races
Post by: Allemano on April 14, 2010, 04:30:29 PM
The score:
D-type: 1 point
Hubert: 1 point
Oswald: 1 point
Streamliner: 1 point
metalshapes: 2 points
Paul Jaray: 2 points
white12:  3 points

and the incredible faksta: 10 points :applause:

Well done gentlemen!  :)