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Solved: 420. by Allemano - Inofficial Wanderer/Porsche Type 8 Project "Urach"
« on: May 17, 2010, 04:14:47 PM »
Please respond below if you know the make and model designation of this car.
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2010, 09:05:29 AM »
This is a 1931-1932 Wanderer Type 8 streamliner prototype, designed by Porsche. The same basic body style was used for the Porsche/Zundapp Type 12, an early predecessor to the VW Beetle.
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2010, 12:40:12 PM »
Your veeery close, but this particular car is not a Wanderer. It has a different name.
Furthermore I would like to know the name of the coachbuilder.
Your puzzle for 48h!
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2010, 12:45:35 PM »
Some sources call it a Porsche Type 8 but it was constructed under contract to Wanderer. It was built by Porsche.

Source: Vintage Volkswagen Club of America
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2010, 12:49:30 PM »
No linking please! Updated! Puzzles Rulebook

A very similar car yes, but not this one! ;)
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2010, 12:55:05 PM »
Puzzle 420

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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2010, 12:56:41 PM »
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2010, 06:33:32 AM »
By the way: the body was not built by Porsche. but by ...?
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2010, 09:21:38 AM »
I'm still not convinced that this is anything other than a Porsche/Wanderer Type 8. I found a profile shot identified as a Wanderer Type 8 on another site and *every* detail is the same - rear skirt, door handles, ventilator door location, front fender skirt detail, door hinges, and so on. I can't seem to upload pictures and I'm not allowed to link here, but I'd be happy to provide reference info.
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2010, 09:45:11 AM »
I have to stay stubborn on this. All the informations you've given are somehow correct, but this car has a different designation.

Let's sum up some facts:

– this car is indeed a Porsche [Nr. 8] development and was temporarily the daily driver of Mr. Porsche himself. The design was made by Porsche's designer Erwin Komenda.

– this car wasn't entirely built by Porsche as the Porsche company didn't exist back then. He founded an office for consulting engineers in Stuttgart 1930. I'm asking for the coachbuilder.

– this car is indeed closely related to Wanderer, but officially never weared the "Wanderer" name. This procect had a certain name!

– two cars were built: one with a streamlined body (the puzzle car) and a second, more conventional designed car which whereabouts is unknown today.

Those background infos are all provided by a book. I strongly believe it's quite reliable...

I extend the time limit for you for another 24h to come along with the right solution. After that it's free for all again.
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2010, 09:57:24 AM »
Go ahead and open it up for everyone. It's not worth fighting pedantry for a point, even though I can provide two corroborative sources. Your request for a coachbuilder name was not part of the original question, either.
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2010, 09:58:36 AM »
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2010, 10:13:00 AM »
Quote from: tonyola on May 24, 2010, 09:57:24 AM
Go ahead and open it up for everyone. It's not worth fighting pedantry for a point, even though I can provide two corroborative sources. Your request for a coachbuilder name was not part of the original question, either.

That is correct, but it's always in the author's discretion to declare a puzzle as solved or not and you're still missing the name it has.
This is the forum of nit-pickers, so don't feel offended please!  ;D

A way to confirm your guesses is to PM the author of the puzzle – in this case me.  ;)


Another more diplomatic idea would be to give you a point as a reward for your hard work and keep it open for other guesses again – of course without your involvement, then!   :-X

What do you think?  :)
« Last Edit: May 24, 2010, 10:27:48 AM by Allemano »
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2010, 10:15:50 AM »
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2010, 01:24:09 PM »
Quote from: Allemano on May 24, 2010, 10:13:00 AM
[Another more diplomatic idea would be to give you a point as a reward for your hard work and keep it open for other guesses again – of course without your involvement, then!   :-X

What do you think?  :)

That's entirely up to you, but I think I've earned it.
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2010, 05:44:49 PM »
Done, but from now others get a chance to find the right solution!
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2010, 06:25:29 PM »
The coachbuilder was reutter.
in one text I found it as type 9?
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2010, 02:32:15 AM »
Quote from: mtbo on May 24, 2010, 06:25:29 PM
The coachbuilder was reutter.
in one text I found it as type 9?
Reutter is correct. It's a Type 8, but got another project/nick-name.
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2010, 10:20:06 AM »
This what I found on Porsche types, I can send you  link if you want.
What do you think?


typ   8 1930
Chassis with 8 cylinder 3.25 liter motor. Convertible body built by Reutter and used by Porsche as a company car for several years..
   

typ 9 1930
Chassis with same engine as Type 8 but intended to have Rootes-type supercharger but this was abandoned. Streamline body by Reutter and used by Ferdinand Porsche as personal car for 4 or 5 years.
   
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2010, 11:08:54 AM »
It's the latter car you've mentioned. I still need the name of this project. Like I've said before this wasn't an official Wanderer

It is not listed as Wanderer 8, Wanderer 9,.... or whatsoever!
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2010, 11:20:00 AM »
sorry, had to edit my last post, apologize for that!
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2010, 01:34:20 PM »
Quote from: Allemano on May 25, 2010, 11:08:54 AM
It's the latter car you've mentioned. I still need the name of this project. Like I've said before this wasn't an official Wanderer

It is not listed as Wanderer 8, Wanderer 9,.... or whatsoever!


 never mentioned wanderer at all

maybe project Urach
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2010, 02:18:49 PM »
Quote from: mtbo on May 25, 2010, 01:34:20 PM
maybe project Urach

YES! Well done!
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Re: 420. by Allemano
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2010, 02:51:13 AM »
Quote from: mtbo on May 25, 2010, 01:34:20 PM
never mentioned wanderer at all
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Re: Solved: 420. by Allemano - Inofficial Wanderer/Porsche Type 8 Project "Urich"
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2010, 01:38:19 AM »
Not a great pic but it´s the side :
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