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Re: 409. by Allemano
« Reply #100 on: September 02, 2010, 07:02:55 AM »
No, the client wasn't American.
But he's on this pic as well...

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Re: 409. by Allemano
« Reply #101 on: September 03, 2010, 03:43:01 AM »
Is the Frenchman Jean de Lattre de Tassigny?
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Re: 409. by Allemano
« Reply #102 on: September 03, 2010, 03:48:49 AM »
No, but do you know the one standing in the center?
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Re: 409. by Allemano
« Reply #103 on: September 03, 2010, 03:52:58 AM »
Frenchman is Kœnig, which makes the central figure Tedder?
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Re: 409. by Allemano
« Reply #104 on: September 03, 2010, 03:54:39 AM »
Nope - Tedder's on the right.  :P
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Re: 409. by Allemano
« Reply #105 on: September 03, 2010, 03:58:40 AM »
You spotted Marie-Pierre Kœnig which finally closes this chapter! :applause:
Man in the center is the already mentioned Dwight Eisenhower. Why did I asked for the man in the center:doh:
The whole story of this car follows later!

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Re: 409. by Allemano
« Reply #106 on: September 03, 2010, 04:20:57 AM »
Short summary:
This car was ordered by French General Pierre Koenig who was governor of the French zone in Germany (1945-49). He told Louis Lepoix (who was a French soldier back then) to design a Packard based car. The rough bodywork was done by the C.R.A.S. (Centre de Reperation Automobile Sud) in Friedrichshafen which was kind of a huge repair garage of the French forces.
The paintjob and the entire interior was made by Spohn in Ravensburg. The car was delivered in 1949.

I'm not sure if there was a relation between Lepoix and Spohn at all. The sketch illustrates that the Koenig Packard based on a 1932 chassis.
The pic below shows the unfinished body at C.R.A.S.
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Re: 409. by Allemano
« Reply #107 on: September 03, 2010, 04:25:35 AM »
I give two points for this as it was really hard and not to find on the internet. Two well deserved points for Otto Puzell who fulfilled three of the requirements:
1. Packard
2. Lepoix
3. Pierre König


Oh, and Yves guessed the coachbuilder right.. :-\
Hmmm.. I'm too generous today, so, I give him a point as well.
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Re: 409. by Allemano
« Reply #108 on: September 03, 2010, 04:32:03 AM »
That's very generous, as I didn't ID Spohn. Can yves get the second point? To satisfy the requirement of  the puzzle as posted:

Please respond below if you know the make and model designation of this car. (1932 Packard Eight)

Furthermore I'd like to know the client for it was built, (French General Pierre Koenig) the coachbuilder (Spohn and C.R.A.S.) and who was responsible for the design  (Louis Lepoix).
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Re: 409. by Allemano
« Reply #109 on: September 03, 2010, 04:35:38 AM »
Already edited my last post! ;)

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Re: 409. by Allemano
« Reply #110 on: September 03, 2010, 04:38:42 AM »
I beat you by 45 seconds!  ;D
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The sketch title says 1932, but the car itself looks more like a 1942 model. Is there an error ?

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The sketch title says 1932, but the car itself looks more like a 1942 model. Is there an error ?
no, the sketch title only says it is based on a 1932 Packard chassis.

The sketch dates from 11. March 1947 (written right below the sketch)
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