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Solved: 193. of All., DKW Roadster by Drews
« on: April 08, 2009, 06:50:06 AM »
What's the name and the model designation of this car? Who made it?
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Re: 193. of All.
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2009, 10:06:40 AM »
moved to the next level!
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Re: 193. of All.
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2009, 11:20:42 AM »
Maybe a Hartmann?
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Re: 193. of All.
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2009, 01:50:25 PM »
Nope!
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Re: 193. of All.
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2009, 07:47:14 AM »
The front wheel arches are extremely similar, at least on the picture I have of Hartmann.
But it should be German?
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Re: 193. of All.
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2009, 07:53:14 AM »
Quote from: faksta on April 16, 2009, 07:47:14 AM
But it should be German?

It should..!
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Re: 193. of All.
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2009, 08:03:01 AM »
Maybe Drews then?
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Re: 193. of All.
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2009, 08:08:25 AM »
Wow! Indeed!
Should be easy for you to get the missing informations!
I lock this 12h for you.
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Re: 193. of All.
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2009, 08:28:02 AM »
1958 DKW Roadster, based on DKW 3=6.
And, by the way, judging by how your picture is cropped, we've had the same source  ;)
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Re: 193. of All.
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2009, 11:07:37 AM »
I guess you're completely right ! :)
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Re: Solved: 193. of All., 1958 DKW Roadster by Drews
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2009, 11:21:47 AM »
You have just scored me my 100th point  :D
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Re: Solved: 193. of All., 1958 DKW Roadster by Drews
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2009, 11:31:37 AM »
Congratulations! Only 100 points to go!  :)
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Solved - NEH 807: Hartmann DKW F93 Spider
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2010, 09:37:45 AM »
1 point for the AutoPuzzler who can tell me what this car is:
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Re: NEH 807
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2010, 11:09:41 AM »
I expect the Experts to make short work of this one...
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Re: NEH 807
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2010, 09:49:11 AM »
5 minutes in the hands of the Professionals should be enough...!
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Re: NEH 807
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2010, 10:09:09 AM »
Hartmann DKW F93 3=6 Spyder supposedly built by Karosserie Reutter of Stuttgart. Very similar to the DKW spider by Drews we had before. Actually I believe it's one and the same car.



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Re: NEH 807
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2010, 12:12:19 PM »
Yes, I thought it was very similar too but since it was described differently I figured it must be a different car.  But maybe it isn't.

Have awarded a point anyway and will describe it as I have it!
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Re: Solved - NEH 807: Hartmann DKW F93 Spider
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2012, 11:21:32 AM »
It isn't mentioned in the Reutter book. The Drews site shows pictures of "both" cars. In my opinion it is the Hartmann Spyder is the same car as the Drews Roadster:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=7598.0
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Re: Solved: 193. of All., 1958 DKW Roadster by Drews
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2014, 11:02:19 AM »
Same car I guess:

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Re: Solved: 193. of All., 1958 DKW Roadster by Drews
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2014, 11:25:53 AM »
We had the discussion about the Drews and the Hartmann spyder being the same car before: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=14209
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Re: Solved: 193. of All., 1958 DKW Roadster by Drews
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2014, 12:00:40 PM »
Quote from: Wendax on July 29, 2014, 11:25:53 AM
We had the discussion about the Drews and the Hartmann spyder being the same car before: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=14209

Now I remember..
Even the same picture was used.  Thanks!
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Re: Solved - NEH 807: Hartmann DKW F93 Spider
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2015, 11:03:33 AM »
Here's Alfred Hartmann with his baby:

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Re: Solved - NEH 807: Hartmann DKW F93 Spider
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2016, 05:45:54 AM »
Another action shot:
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Re: Solved: 193. of All., 1958 DKW Roadster by Drews
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2022, 11:42:37 AM »
The Drews DKW and the "Hartmann Spyder" are the same car which was modified many times throughout its life. Joachim Drews lists 12 different versions of this one-off in his book about his family's coachbuilding company. After the Spyder was shown in auto motor und sport 3/1957 where Hartmann claimed that it was his own creation he was forced to state a correction that the bodywork was designed and built by Drews (see below).
Allemano's picture shows the first version which remained unpainted until it was modified for its buyer (probably Fritz Trump, responsible for DKW exports at the Düsseldorf factory). The bottom right picture in reply #15 shows a rear view of the first version, while the top right picture (as well as the on in reply #18) show the second version like it was sold by Drews in 1956. Alfred Hartmann bought that car in 1957. The pictures in replies #22, 17 and 21 show versions 3, 4 resp. 5 while it was owned by Hartmann. The other pictures show the car after it was restored by Drews in 2008.
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