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Solved - als_046 - Goliath Pionier fastback sedan
« on: December 29, 2010, 02:57:29 PM »
Tell me what is this, for a point.
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Re: als_046
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2010, 03:20:44 PM »
1930's Goliath Pionier/Pioneer (depending on how you want to spell it...)
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Re: als_046
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2010, 03:22:58 PM »
Fast and smooth!  :applause:

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Re: Solved - als_046 - Goliath Pionier
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2010, 04:12:41 PM »
the second double puzzle in one day  :o

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=14932.0

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Re: Solved - als_046 - Goliath Pionier
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2010, 04:16:13 PM »
No, the third... There is also the Mercedes T80.
But I stop now because it seems that the "search" doesn't help me today.  >:(

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Re: Solved - als_046 - Goliath Pionier
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2010, 04:28:05 PM »
but it has different wheels so....different car?  sort of.  ;)

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Re: Solved - als_046 - Goliath Pionier
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2010, 04:32:05 PM »
Also the body is different, at least in the back. I know little about it, but it should be more recent, about 1935-36.

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Re: Solved - als_046 - Goliath Pionier
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2011, 04:53:54 AM »
The Goliath Pionier was built as a convertible, as a notchback sedan (the most common version) and from 1933 on also as a fastback sedan. There were two different versions of the fastback sedan: an earlier one with rectangular doors and side windows cf. attached picture), and a later one (as in the puzzle picture) with slanted doors and windows and a more flowing roofline. I even found a picture of the later one with integrated dickey seat.

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Re: Solved - als_046 - Goliath Pionier
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2011, 07:10:17 AM »
Wow, I´ve never seen the rumble-seat version before!

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Re: Solved - als_046 - Goliath Pionier
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2011, 07:13:04 AM »
I'm not sure whether the rumbleseat version is a private conversion or not.

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Re: Solved - als_046 - Goliath Pionier
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2011, 08:16:00 AM »
In the Technikmuseum Stade I have seen a Goliath Pionier with a similar body, probably a private one-off. If anybody has information about this one, you are welcome to share it here.
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Re: Solved - als_046 - Goliath Pionier fastback sedan
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2023, 02:25:34 AM »
Another Fließheck-Limousine: