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Hansa Treff-As Rennwagen, 1925 (raced in Argentina)
« on: September 30, 2010, 07:45:07 AM »
Who can tell me some facts about this vehicle?
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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2010, 08:55:08 AM »
Time to be promoted.

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2010, 02:39:27 AM »
O.K., the original picture was a mere 3x2cm and I do not have another one.

So this is hard, but itīs a challenge also  ;D

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2010, 02:58:04 AM »
German?
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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2010, 03:11:52 AM »
Yes, it is german.

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2010, 03:22:55 AM »
From a small manufacturer?
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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2010, 03:52:10 AM »
 It was a bigger and (then) well known manufacturer.

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2010, 08:25:22 AM »
If no one will ask or answer this will be acme black hole stuff.

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2010, 05:55:00 PM »
I'll start--how about an Auto Union???

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2010, 07:13:01 PM »
Not Wanderer, DKW, Horch or Audi.
This car was built years before the Auto-Union was formed from those four makes.

The marque you should look for was part of another german auto manufacturerīs conglomerate.

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2010, 09:45:52 PM »
Hansa-Lloyd?

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2010, 01:00:09 AM »
or is this a Protos NAG?
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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2010, 01:25:05 AM »
Durkopp?

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2010, 02:39:13 AM »
LOCKED for Aaron65 for 24h.

It is indeed a Hansa. I just need a model designation of this racing variation of a stock model and the point will be yours.


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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2010, 06:51:12 PM »
Well, finding info on pre-Borgward Hansas isn't easy, and I don't have any books on them.  Sooo, it looks like the car is around a 1915 model if I had to guess by the picture.  The only model designation I can find from that area is a 16-50 PS.  I also found a Type E that seems like the sports model, but the name doesn't seem to jibe with the others I found.

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2010, 05:00:33 AM »
Search Autopuzzles and you will find the name...

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2010, 06:34:48 AM »
I may have to update my estimation of the year...is it from the A6/A8 family?

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2010, 07:04:58 AM »
not an A-Type.

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2010, 08:09:59 AM »
Ummmm...6/18hp?

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2010, 10:31:05 AM »
I do not want to hear numbers...

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2010, 11:02:48 AM »
Trumpf-As???  Sorry I'm so obtuse about this!

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2010, 11:47:14 AM »
Almost done...

Besides the Trumpf As there also was the Tr***-As.

I can smell your point now!

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2010, 11:49:27 AM »
Treff-As?!?!  :)

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Re: grob: old mighty racer
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2010, 12:51:59 PM »
Sorry for torturing you. But now we have it.

It is an Hansa Treff-As Rennwagen, which was running as a racing car in Argentina in 1925.
I do not have a driverīs name or further facts.

Maybe some of our south american pros will have some additional information.