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GG-97 Avions Voisin A-JT mock-up
« on: December 28, 2009, 04:59:40 PM »
Last batch of the year...
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Re: GG-97
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2010, 06:41:04 AM »
In the absence of rookies... a giveaway for the experts?

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Re: GG-97
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2010, 06:52:07 AM »
Avions Voisin A-JT

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Re: GG-97
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2010, 07:14:28 AM »
Yes, a mock-up to be exact  ;)

http://www.avionsvoisin.com/

I predict a silent and very short future for this car. The estimated starting price of 70.000 Euros (incl. all hefty Dutch taxes) is unbelievably low for this kind of low volume production.

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Re: GG-97 Avions Voisin A-JT mock-up
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2010, 07:36:17 AM »
I'm often wondering that people invest lots of money for building hideously designed cars. Despite it's relatively cheap: would you pay 70.000 Euros for this?
Though, I've to admit it's not the most blatant ugliness we had before..

BTW: what about a poll about the ugliest car ever posted on Autopuzzles.com?  ;D
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Re: GG-97 Avions Voisin A-JT mock-up
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2010, 06:04:51 PM »
Great idea the poll! But itīll be very hard to choose only one.

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Re: GG-97 Avions Voisin A-JT mock-up
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2010, 02:55:42 AM »
I've thought about such a thread, as well. On those occasions where I've ripped the latest eye-searing designs from modern automakers, or poo-poohed the Citroen DS, I've been taken to task by certain members of our site - one in particular who seems to thrive on attacking the opinions of others while offering little of his own - and have been chastened.

Each time I warm up to really lambasting an ugly ( IMO ) car, I'm reminded of this snippet from a movie monologue:

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“In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little, yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so.

But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that is in the discovery and defense of the new. The world is often unkind to new talents, new creations. The new needs friends......"

Of course, Monsieur Ego goes on to wax eloquent about a culinary delight prepared by a rodent, but, I trust, you get the point.

So, let 'er rip. But hate the sin, not the sinner!  ;D
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Re: GG-97 Avions Voisin A-JT mock-up
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2010, 05:23:21 AM »
Think this poll won't come. Simply because there are too many of them.  ;D

It's a bit like in those casting shows looking for the new super talent. Why noone tells those less gifted canditates: "better find something different, he?"
But after all they're adult persons with there own responsibility.
And beauty is always in the eyes of the beholder. For instance I once worked for an Indian (design) client. That was a unique experience as his sense of beauty was a real challenge... :-\

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Re: GG-97 Avions Voisin A-JT mock-up
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2010, 12:28:27 PM »
I've thought about such a thread, as well. On those occasions where I've ripped the latest eye-searing designs from modern automakers, or poo-poohed the Citroen DS, I've been taken to task by certain members of our site - one in particular who seems to thrive on attacking the opinions of others while offering little of his own - and have been chastened.

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=2513.0

I don't think you're referring to me, but I was the one who replied about your vision of a DS (that I do not like either as I wrote, but consider advanced for its time) just for the love of discussion and not for attack anyone...  :huh:


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Re: GG-97 Avions Voisin A-JT mock-up
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2010, 12:43:32 PM »
Nope - not you. I consider your participation at the sight one of the most enjoyable aspects of the time I spend here.

The person I was referring to seldom visits here anymore.
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Re: GG-97 Avions Voisin A-JT mock-up
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2010, 12:49:34 PM »
So, let 'er rip. But hate the sin, not the sinner! ;D

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Re: GG-97 Avions Voisin A-JT mock-up
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2010, 04:51:22 PM »
I didn't want to start a discussion about the looks of this car  :D

It's just that the creators of this car seem to be from another planet where engineering and production cost are just insignificant side-effects of making a car!

I just read another article on it in the latest issue of Autovisie. They've already upped the price with 5000 Euro. It will use subframes and engine from a existing car. The creators estimate that 50% of the cost will be in bought parts from other manufacturers. They describe these parts as "worry-parts"  :P So they imagine they don't need to worry about these and instead just focus on design.

Well, as long as they don't do it to trick investors into throwing money in this bottomless pit, I quite enjoy following this saga.  ;)