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GG-182 Ley, made in the Netherlands
« on: July 03, 2010, 12:22:03 PM »
A point for you, if you tell me what this is:
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Re: GG-182
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2010, 04:39:16 AM »
Experts?

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Re: GG-182
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2010, 03:40:16 PM »
Pro time!

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Re: GG-182
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2010, 12:29:40 AM »
Is this German?
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Re: GG-182
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2010, 12:02:09 PM »
This is a tale of 2 countries, one of which indeed is Germany  ;)

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Re: GG-182
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2010, 01:26:59 PM »
With a connection to J. S. RASMUSSEN, and Bohnstedt & Petersen-DK-A?
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Re: GG-182
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2010, 01:44:48 PM »
I'm thinking a DKW?

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Re: GG-182
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2010, 01:46:59 PM »
You mean this one:

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Re: GG-182
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2010, 01:48:26 PM »
Bugace, I'll lock it for you to come up with the rest of the story.

The other half of the story lies not in Denmark and therefore it's not Bohnstedt & Petersen

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Re: GG-182
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2010, 06:03:55 PM »
This will not be easy...

The D.K.W. is a Slaby Beringer, converted from to electric to petrol  :)

I haven't been able to connect the story and names that I'm looking for to either D.K.W. or SB, but it almost cannot be another car.

I'll keep digging!

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Re: GG-182
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2010, 01:45:15 PM »
I do not think it is a Slaby Beringer, they always had only one door to the right side:
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Re: GG-182
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2010, 03:02:32 PM »
It looks a bit like a cross between an SB and a Mollmobil
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Re: GG-182
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2010, 03:37:20 PM »
But the screen and the fenders are rounded at the Mollmobil...
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Re: GG-182
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2010, 04:50:41 PM »
Perhaps someone will get to the truth after finding out which name I have for this car.

I do have a 2nd photo  ;)
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Re: GG-182
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2010, 07:51:58 PM »
From what I have found out, if it is a DKW, it's based on the electrocar mentioned ower here. Rasmussen mounted the 40 ccm engine on the side. The twostroker was just a helpengine for the elektroengine, but this extra power gave the car the oppertunity to climb a lot steaper hills. In other words a early hybrid.  In the small pieces of text I have found, this Bergsteiger, are mentioned too only have reach the prototype stadium, not knowing how many cars actually built.

When talking about doors, the driver had doors both sides, but the passanger only on the left side.
I'm sorry, but this is all I can find about this vehicle.

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Re: GG-182
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2010, 02:57:26 AM »
I've found a similar story.

However, a while ago I first stumbled stumbled upon the 2 photos I posted here and the story behind these cars. There is no mentioning of Rasmussen or D.K.W. there, but there is another German name known in the industry at that time. The make that I'm after is not German, but it was backed by a German investor.

Later I came across the D.K.W. "der kleine Bergsteiger" advert and concluded that there must be a link, but I haven't found anything yet to prove it.

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Re: GG-182
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2010, 05:31:44 AM »
I found a photo of the D.K.W. "der kleine Bergsteiger". My puzzle car lacks the outboard engine...

I also found a few D.K.W. factory photos
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Re: GG-182
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2010, 02:32:03 PM »
Was this German investor also involved with one or more German automobile manufacturers?
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Re: GG-182
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2010, 04:51:44 PM »
He has the same name as a known manufacturer of that time. He even could be the same man, but I don't have any proof of that.

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Re: GG-182
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2010, 12:34:09 AM »
Is it related to Borgward?
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Re: GG-182
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2010, 03:27:18 AM »
No, not Borgward

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Re: GG-182
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2010, 03:36:59 AM »
Dürkopp?
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Re: GG-182
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2010, 04:02:43 PM »
Not that either

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Re: GG-182
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2010, 05:45:21 PM »
Austrian?

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Re: GG-182
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2010, 11:17:28 PM »
that "known manufacturer" which you mentioned - was that a German brand? I mean the industrialist was German, but the brand name, which his name rhymed with was it a German automobile make?
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