Author Topic: ADG 28 - SOLVED - Ringspeed Eco 2 - Rinspeed Topaz Comprex (Read 3165 times)

75america · « **on:** May 24, 2010, 08:08:50 AM »

Identify what is present in A, B and Both A&B and score yourself a point.
How? Identify both cars and everything will be clear...

75america · « **Reply #1 on:** June 05, 2010, 01:32:56 AM »

Moving ^up

Octavia · « **Reply #2 on:** June 05, 2010, 06:03:14 AM »

Is pic 2 (cars) a Zender kitted VW Golf Mk2

75america · « **Reply #3 on:** June 05, 2010, 06:25:47 AM »

No it is not

Tom_I · « **Reply #4 on:** June 05, 2010, 08:26:29 AM »

The wheels on car A look to be from a 1980s Fiat Panda. Is that what it's based on?

75america · « **Reply #5 on:** June 06, 2010, 08:23:05 AM »

Not 100% sure, but I believe it is not.

als15 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 06, 2010, 08:38:51 AM »

I'd say Fiat 127 as the base of the first one.

75america · « **Reply #7 on:** June 06, 2010, 09:06:53 AM »

This car is not equipped with a Fiat engine, so I doubt it is Fiat based.

DeAutogids.nl · « **Reply #8 on:** June 06, 2010, 03:15:03 PM »

The first car I say from memory was Britsh build and was "unusual" in that you could see the structure through the bodywork. I believe the car was made in the early nineties.

75america · « **Reply #9 on:** June 06, 2010, 03:56:00 PM »

Indeed British. Also the period is about right.

studhamsmudger · « **Reply #10 on:** June 14, 2010, 07:08:54 AM »

The first car is the Ringspeed Eco 2. Is the second anything to do with Rinspeed?

Tom_I · « **Reply #11 on:** June 14, 2010, 02:19:33 PM »

A Rinspeed Aliporta, perhaps (VW Golf with gullwing doors)?

75america · « **Reply #12 on:** June 14, 2010, 02:51:16 PM »

Not Aliporta.

I lock this one for studhamsmudger, because with the info he provided, he can solve the puzzle and earn the point.

After his reply, the puzzle is open again for all experts to properly identify the VW (if studhamsmudger is not first). An additional point will be awarded for the correct identification.

studhamsmudger · « **Reply #13 on:** June 15, 2010, 07:03:15 AM »

Rinspeed Golf Turbo?

75america · « **Reply #14 on:** June 15, 2010, 12:49:35 PM »

Quote from: studhamsmudger on June 15, 2010, 07:03:15 AM

Rinspeed Golf Turbo?

Indeed Rinspeed but the car has a specific name which is not 'Golf Turbo'.

But as I mentioned before, you can already identify what is present in A, B and A&B

studhamsmudger · « **Reply #15 on:** June 15, 2010, 01:24:26 PM »

As one is a Rinspeed and the other a Ringspeed I guess the difference would be the letter ' G '. Is the answer that simple?

75america · « **Reply #16 on:** June 15, 2010, 01:52:28 PM »

Quote from: studhamsmudger on June 15, 2010, 01:24:26 PM

As one is a Rinspeed and the other a Ringspeed I guess the difference would be the letter ' G '. Is the answer that simple?

That's it, but for this answer you had to identify both brands. Point awarded.

This puzzle is open again for all experts for the correct name of the VW.

Tom_I · « **Reply #17 on:** June 15, 2010, 03:04:26 PM »

I expect I'm being a bit thick here, but I'm struggling to see how the Venn diagram applies. The names of both A and B have the letters of "Rinspeed" in them. A has a letter "G" which is not in B. What does B have that's not in A? Or am I missing something?

(Probably)

75america · « **Reply #18 on:** June 15, 2010, 03:36:31 PM »

Quote from: Tom_I on June 15, 2010, 03:04:26 PM

I expect I'm being a bit thick here, but I'm struggling to see how the Venn diagram applies. The names of both A and B have the letters of "Rinspeed" in them. A has a letter "G" which is not in B. What does B have that's not in A? Or am I missing something?

(Probably)

Simple math:

A has G
B is empty
A&B has Rinspeed

Tom_I · « **Reply #19 on:** June 15, 2010, 04:39:10 PM »

But that doesn't make sense.

In a simple Venn diagram like the one in the preamble, circle A contains items with one characteristic, circle B contains items with a different one, and the overlapping part contains items with both characteristics.

So B can't be empty. You're saying that the overlapping part contains elements which are not present in A, and also not present in B. Anything in the overlapping part has to contain elements which are present in both A and B. Doesn't it?

75america · « **Reply #20 on:** June 15, 2010, 04:51:46 PM »

It does.

75america · « **Reply #21 on:** June 16, 2010, 06:20:54 AM »

It is already a long time that I left school, and this forum is about cars, not math.

But as far as I know you can't have something identical that is present in both B and A&B

I think that A&B share 'R'-'I'-'N'-'S'-'P'-'E'-'E'-'D'
While 'G' is unique for A
B has nothing that is not common with A, so it's empty

But I might be completely wrong on this.

DeAutogids.nl · « **Reply #22 on:** June 16, 2010, 06:55:53 AM »

Rinspeed is in both A and B, therefore in A&B. G is only in A.

Tom_I · « **Reply #23 on:** June 16, 2010, 11:42:41 AM »

Well, sorry for that little digression. Back to the puzzle - there's still the Golf to identify.

I haven't got a picture to help with it, but I found mention of a model called the Rinspeed Topaz. I don't know if it was ever a production model, but there was a prototype shown at Geneva in 1982, with a diesel engine fitted with a Brown Boveri Comprex forced-induction system. It's described as having a special body built by Rinspeed, with a hatchback opening down to the level of the back bumper, a fixed roof over the rear seats, with fixed rear windows, and a removable Targa roof over the front seats. Could that be car B?

75america · « **Reply #24 on:** June 16, 2010, 01:48:22 PM »

(As far as I understand, DeAutogids.nl confirms my explanation, not yours... )

And back on topic:
It's indeed the Rinspeed Golf Topaz Comprex

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