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A#322 Solved: Renault 4 by Jean Bertin
« on: January 11, 2010, 08:52:22 AM »
Let this be a puzzle.

I'd like to know more about this car than I do know, so there's one point for telling me the name of this car I have and one point for exact an accurate information about it.
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Re: A#322
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2010, 09:06:20 AM »
Appears to be a shortened Renault 4CV.
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Re: A#322
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2010, 10:55:34 AM »
Half of a Renault 4 = Renault 2  :D :D
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Re: A#322
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2010, 12:27:27 PM »
Shortened Renault 4 by a french company called Bertin, in 1969
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Re: A#322
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2010, 12:45:51 PM »
Quote from: franck.kegelart on January 11, 2010, 12:27:27 PM
Shortened Renault 4 by a french company called Bertin, in 1969

I have never heard about that company. You score 2 points if You can add anything more or somehow prove Your answer (here or by PM). Locked till the next reply.
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Re: A#322
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2010, 01:34:06 PM »
Believe him, he's right.
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Re: A#322
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2010, 01:39:13 PM »
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Re: A#322
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2010, 01:41:13 PM »
I have a couple of other views of it...
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Re: A#322
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2010, 02:15:18 PM »
It seems this car is not as obscure as I thought it is. Thus, I award franck.kegelart with one point and move it to solved.

More pictures:
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Re: A#322 Solved: Renault 4 by Jean Bertin
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2010, 01:28:38 PM »
This car is quite widely known in France.  It appears in many French Renault 4 books (l'Album Renault 4, Renault 4 de Mon Pere, etc.) and was featured in an extensive article in the French R4L magazine in June 2008 (which I saw but unfortunately didn't buy at the time).

Interestingly Jean Bertin was one of the senior engineers involved in the amazing Aerotrain 'aircraft without wings,' the early-1960s to mid-1970s 'hover' train project developed for SNCF and RATP.  The Aerotrain 01 was powered by two 50hp Renault Gordini engines (hence Bertin's connections with Renault).  The 'mono rail- style' tracks for the prototype Aerotrain still exist today, and can be seen running along side the main road from leading from Orlean to Paris, stopping near the main turning for Chartes.  I will add some photos shortly.

In the mid/late 1970s Jean Bertin also developed a fan-powered car, which I have a small printed leaflet for somewhere.  When I find it I will add some more images to the site.
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Re: A#322 Solved: Renault 4 by Jean Bertin
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2010, 01:42:26 PM »
As promised, here are some photos of Jean Bertin's fantastic Aerotrain 01 (from 1963), Aerotrain 02 (1969) and the Bertin prototype.  Enjoy!
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Re: A#322 Solved: Renault 4 by Jean Bertin
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2010, 02:03:31 PM »
And here's the Bertin Terraplane BC6
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Re: A#322 Solved: Renault 4 by Jean Bertin
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2024, 03:42:11 PM »
Meanwhile the front damage has been repaired:  :)
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