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Re: A Logopuzzle by Amsterdam
« Reply #125 on: December 14, 2010, 12:52:45 PM »
Yes, from Milano

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Re: A Logopuzzle by Amsterdam
« Reply #126 on: December 15, 2010, 10:15:15 AM »
Scuderia Milano?

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Re: A Logopuzzle by Amsterdam
« Reply #127 on: December 15, 2010, 10:39:46 AM »
Scuderia Milano?

No, it is no racing team badge as answered earlier in the puzzle.

Its a badge from an Italian race car constructor from Milan. Active afther WWII and uses parts of other makes to built his own improved race cars.
On this badge is this constructors last name, which is the final solution to this puzzle.

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Re: A Logopuzzle by Amsterdam
« Reply #128 on: December 16, 2010, 12:25:03 PM »
Faccioli??

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Re: A Logopuzzle by Amsterdam
« Reply #129 on: December 16, 2010, 12:29:43 PM »
No, but you are looking in the right direction

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Re: A Logopuzzle by Amsterdam
« Reply #130 on: December 16, 2010, 09:19:31 PM »
Taraschi?

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Re: A Logopuzzle by Amsterdam
« Reply #131 on: December 17, 2010, 06:16:45 AM »
No, your last two guesses are close when it comes to the type of cars they built.

But both of them are not from Milan. Faccioli was based in Bologna and Taraschi in Teramo. So you could not have found any car by them with this badge.

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Re: A Logopuzzle by Amsterdam
« Reply #132 on: December 17, 2010, 08:31:41 AM »
Keep searching, keep guessing. Dagrada?

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Re: A Logopuzzle by Amsterdam
« Reply #133 on: December 17, 2010, 09:07:16 AM »
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YES!! You found it  Oguerrerob. Well done!


With the announcement of a new "Formula Junior" class in 1958, there was a remarkable flowering of individual designs to populate the grids of the new formula. Race car constructors from America, Italy, England, Germany and France grabbed whatever engine was close to 1100c--BMCs, Fiats, Fords, Renaults--and served them up in a bewildering variety of concoctions. Among the fastest, and certainly the loudest, are the eleven (?) cars built by Angelo Dagrada of Milan.

Born in 1912, Dagrada earned a living as a mechanic, and built several race cars for the Italian 750 and 1100 cc races so popular after WWII. Building a reputation as a speed wizard, Dagrada improved upon the Fiat 1100-Siata head and combustion chambers. His cars achieved some significant wins, but a series of road accidents in the early 1950's put further race car activities on hold. But by 1955, Dagrada was once again in the speed business, this time with Alfas.

Dagrada customers included the Baghetti family, owners of a successful foundry in Milan. To his delight, a teenage Giancarlo Baghetti was very interested in becoming a race driver. Baghetti's first car was "unsuitable for racing", and a secret arrangement with Dagrada ensured that the young Baghetti would have a faster car. "I remember Dagrada modified my father's Alfa 1900 sedan at night, when my father was not around," Baghetti told this author in a 1988 interview. "My father did not want a race car, just a nice family sedan. But when he picked up the Alfa the next day, he couldn't figure out why it ran so much faster."

While Baghetti cut his teeth on Alfas and Abarths in local events, Dagrada was dreaming of a special car to compete in the new Formula Junior. Chassis design, pre-Chapman, was simple, primitive, and not always effective--a tubular frame with Fiat 1100 front suspension and whatever live axle fit at the rear. Dagrada, always an engine man, would do it his way. While virtually every other Italian Formula Junior constructor chose the Fiat unit, Dagrada took a good look at the 1098cc Lancia Appia engine. Featuring a sturdy 10-degree V-4 cylinder cast-iron block, the Appia was the right displacement, readily available and relatively light. However, it suffered with an intricate aluminum head that stymied any attempt to make it a breather. Dagrada's modifications to the Lancia head were diabolic. He virtually re-designed the head, creating new intake and exhaust ports. The Appia suddenly became a fire-breathing cross flow head. Hanging a Weber 38 DCO from each side of the block, he then tuned the exhausts for maximum effect, capable of eardrum-busting decibels, unevenly pulsating from two megaphone exhaust pipes (although some used a combined system). This recipe just about doubled the horsepower from 48 bhp to somewhere around 100 bhp. Dagrada then graced this with an aluminum body reminiscent of the 250F Maserati.


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Re: A Logopuzzle by Amsterdam
« Reply #134 on: December 17, 2010, 09:14:19 AM »
With this final answer by Oguerrerob this logopuzzle is solved.

The score:

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Yves-2 points
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Re: A SOLVED Logopuzzle by Amsterdam
« Reply #135 on: December 17, 2010, 11:26:45 AM »
Wasn't Giancarlo Baghetti the only GP driver ever to win in his first ever Grand Prix race?
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Re: A SOLVED Logopuzzle by Amsterdam
« Reply #136 on: December 17, 2010, 11:33:48 AM »
Wasn't Giancarlo Baghetti the only GP driver ever to win in his first ever Grand Prix race?

Yes. In France 1961. it was also his last win