200 H.P. Bellamy racing car, 1904

grobmotorix · September 28, 2010, 02:42:43 PM

Who´s seen this mighty machine before?

grobmotorix · September 30, 2010, 06:53:49 AM

No ideas? Promoted...

D-type · September 30, 2010, 05:04:40 PM

Maybe 6 cylinder so maybe Napier?

grobmotorix · September 30, 2010, 05:40:01 PM

I just know the marque and the power of the engine.

I can tell you it must have been enormous for its time.

The name was not Napier and I´m not sure if it does not have some more pots...

D-type · October 02, 2010, 07:25:22 PM

A CGV?

grobmotorix · October 03, 2010, 09:13:15 AM

Not a CGV, but the you´re right with the country.

grobmotorix · October 05, 2010, 08:44:56 AM

Time to be promoted.

Paul Jaray · October 05, 2010, 08:47:44 AM

Pipe?

grobmotorix · October 05, 2010, 09:15:58 AM

Not a Pipe and not belgian.

grobmotorix · October 17, 2010, 10:03:26 AM

I´m not totally sure if she is the person in the photography, but a certain Mrs. Hockenhall was involved in this project - this may help?

Joao Gois · October 17, 2010, 10:17:00 AM

It actually looks like a straight-8 to me...

grobmotorix · October 17, 2010, 10:25:30 AM

I think you´re right, maybe it´s two 4-in-line interconnected.

But I can tell you - this was a beast!

grobmotorix · October 26, 2010, 02:58:26 PM

To the black hole?

I know this is not easy but it would be great if someone would be able to reveal its identity.

Allemano · October 26, 2010, 03:07:35 PM

Is it not a bit young for the black hole? (though I don't have an idea either)

grobmotorix · October 26, 2010, 03:23:01 PM

O.K. I´ll give the biggest hint:

the number of horsepower of this car is also its model designation. So this is the ******* XXX HP

Together with the "Hockenhall" hint you will immediately google the constructor´s name if you know the correct number of its horsepower.

Allemano · October 26, 2010, 03:28:28 PM

I believe the man with the starter has a dangerous job...

Paul Jaray · October 26, 2010, 03:29:07 PM

Bellamy?

Paul Jaray · October 26, 2010, 03:33:25 PM

The Bellamy car was quite big, 8-cyl, 38000cc, 200hp and was built in 1904.
I don't have got a pic at hand, but it seemto fit.

grobmotorix · October 26, 2010, 03:35:29 PM

Did you see my 20 seconds long lasting hint?

If so or not this is the correct answer.

This is the 1904 200 HP Bellamy car, built for a certain Mrs. Hockenhall to be raced at Brooklands.

Any more information is very welcome!

Paul Jaray · October 26, 2010, 03:38:24 PM

To be completely honest I did not see the "Hockenhall" hint and when I saw it, I found the car.
Back on the puzzle I saw the following clue and that was a confirmation.
I think I've never saw this car before...

grobmotorix · October 26, 2010, 03:43:23 PM

I´ve scanned this from an old book and had much work to find any information about this vehicle at all.

After longer research I´ve found the source we´ve both seen at google.

But that´s almost everything I know.

It would be great if anyone could contribute some more infos.

Paul Jaray · October 26, 2010, 03:44:34 PM

There are few lines in Burgess Wise's Encyclopedia:
BELLAMY / France 1904
Bellamy, who revived the first era of Brooklands with a failing flying vehicle, which disappeared in a race of hot-air baloons, built this monstrous 8-cylinder car with 38,507cc for a young american lady.

jotage21 · November 03, 2010, 09:38:18 PM

The young american lady was a pilot or it was a streetable car?

grobmotorix · November 04, 2010, 02:19:12 AM

I think it was built as a pure racing car, but in those days I would suggest they´ve used it on public streets, too.

I do only have the information you can read here:

grobmotorix · April 18, 2014, 10:49:37 AM

I´ve found a rare 1905 detail photo of this monstrous engine:

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200 H.P. Bellamy racing car, 1904