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Solved - TIJ #1. 1907 Christie V4 20 liters
« on: December 12, 2009, 06:18:37 PM »
Let's start with an easy one (I suppose).

One point if you can say what this car is.
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Re: TIJ #1
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2009, 03:39:53 AM »
Wow.
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Re: TIJ #1
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2009, 07:04:01 PM »
My sentiments exactly.  I have read several steam car books and never come across that, assuming it is steam.  I am anxious to find out what this is myself.
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Re: TIJ #1
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2009, 08:24:45 PM »
No steam there.
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Re: TIJ #1
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 06:06:59 PM »
aahhh i've been looking for it's name for last hour and can't come up with it, but i'm sure i've seen it before and i even know where. if i recall correctly, it has four big petrol cylinders attached directly to front axle, am i right?
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Re: TIJ #1
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 06:19:14 PM »
Quote from: kocie_ruchy on December 15, 2009, 06:06:59 PM
aahhh i've been looking for it's name for last hour and can't come up with it, but i'm sure i've seen it before and i even know where. if i recall correctly, it has four big petrol cylinders attached directly to front axle, am i right?

I'm not sure about that, but that's what I've heard/read as well.
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Re: TIJ #1
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2009, 09:24:44 PM »
Wow again!  A very interesting vehicle. Is it italian?
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Re: TIJ #1
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2009, 11:40:08 AM »
Quote from: Tackitt on December 18, 2009, 09:24:44 PM
Wow again!  A very interesting vehicle. Is it italian?

Sorry for the late answer, but no, it isn't Italian.

Time has come for Experts.
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Re: TIJ #1
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2009, 12:08:52 PM »
Christie FWD.

Between 1904 and1909 J. Walter Christy built seven front wheel drive race cars which were powered by twins, fours, V-4's, and V-8's of his own creation.
They were notoriously brutal to handle but won their share of speed contests for years after Christie had given up on any commercial hopes for the idea.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2009, 12:30:56 PM by metalshapes »
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Re: TIJ #1
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2009, 12:28:20 PM »
Quote from: metalshapes on December 19, 2009, 12:08:52 PM
Christie FWD.

The make is indeed Christie  :), but I have a different name. There is a possibility the car didn't have a name at all, so providing the year should be fair enough for me.

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Re: TIJ #1
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2009, 12:39:46 PM »
I'm guessing its the 1904 WC1.

Which he raced at Dieppe, France in 1907 and at Indy in 1909.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2009, 12:45:51 PM by metalshapes »
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Re: TIJ #1
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2009, 12:43:58 PM »
Quote from: metalshapes on December 19, 2009, 12:39:46 PM
I'm guessing its the 1904 WC1.

Not that one, so...
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Re: TIJ #1
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2009, 12:57:23 PM »
I found it as the 1908 Christie.

Built by his company the Christie Direct Action Motor Car Company .
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Re: TIJ #1
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2009, 01:01:30 PM »
Quote from: metalshapes on December 19, 2009, 12:57:23 PM
I found it as the 1908 Christie.

Built by his company the Christie Direct Action Motor Car Company .

Ok, this is enough.
it actually is the 1907 V4 car (not sure on the name), that Christie himself entered in the Vanderbilt Cup Race of 1907. His new model was powered by a 19,891 cc V-4 - the largest engine ever to compete in a Grand Prix. Unfortunately, the car was insufficiently tested and broke down on its fifth lap. Christie did well in several dirt track races that summer until he was injured in an accident (straight quotation).

Another point for you then  :D

EDIT: didn't read your previous edit. As far as I know this is a new car, albeit still based on the original design of the WC1.
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Re: TIJ #1
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2009, 01:05:45 PM »
Cool, thanks.  :)
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Re: Solved - TIJ #1. 1907 Christie V4 20 liters
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2009, 01:10:46 PM »
I think I found a pic of that accident.
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Re: Solved - TIJ #1. 1907 Christie V4 20 liters
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2009, 01:11:01 PM »
How did you know that it was not a WC1? From what I've read before, WC1 actually was the name of this 20-liter V4 transverse engined monster.

In the meantime, two more pictures.
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