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Re: PN #01
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2009, 07:48:14 AM »
Maybe you're right saying 2 are out, but there is always a possibility one could drive several cars during his career.

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Re: PN #01
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2009, 08:02:42 AM »
Not László Bognár.
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Re: PN #01
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2009, 08:06:26 AM »
Then I'll go for Tibor Széles.

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Re: PN #01
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2009, 08:19:57 AM »
Not him.

Tibor Széles worked at State-owned Car Repairshop Number 4 and drove a 1930s Maserati and he had a hand in the creation of the  "Kis Négyes" (Small Number 4), a Formula III racecar.

Here's a picture from 1957, Tibor Széles and his Maserati is visible at the right side.


The man who built this puzzle car worked at Car Reiparshop Number 5
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Re: PN #01
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2009, 08:48:40 AM »
Ferenc Demmel aslo drove Formula 2 and 3 cars...can't find a Lancia based Formula Junior...

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Re: PN #01
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2009, 08:53:51 AM »
Not Ferenc Demmel.

Demmel worked at Car Repairshop Number 2

In 1948-1949 when private companies were taken over by the state (sometimes using force), all previous car dealers and repairshops were reorganized. This is when a chain of State-Owned Car Repairshops were set up. As part of their activities these workshops also built racecars in the early 1950s.

The guy, who built our puzzle car, built his prototype before this change took place and later on he worked at a Repairshop.
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Re: PN #01
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2009, 09:12:10 AM »
How is the hungarian word for Repairshop? javítóműhely?
(next guess: Ferenc Kozma, who drove also Fiat-based cars...)

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Re: PN #01
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2009, 09:15:41 AM »
Repairshop is javítóműhely. The full Hungarian name was Állami Autójavító Vállalat (Vállalat is Company, Autójavító is Car-Repair, Állami is State-owned) and a number.

Ferenc Kozma, no he drove the "Little Three" Formula III racer and he was quite good at it.
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Re: PN #01
« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2009, 03:34:55 PM »
Here's a picture from 1957, Tibor Széles and his Maserati is visible at the right side.

Magnificent shot!!  :applause: Is it Városliget?

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Re: PN #01
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2009, 03:53:24 PM »
Yes, this was taken at the edge of Városliget where the usual yearly Grand Prix took place
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Re: PN #01
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2009, 06:07:27 AM »
Ferec Kiss?

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Re: PN #01
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2009, 06:12:15 AM »
That's Ferenc (that'd be Franz in German)

But, no, not him
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Re: PN #01
« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2009, 04:26:14 AM »
Yes, it was too difficult: my first puzzle needs to go to a dark place.
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Re: PN #01
« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2009, 07:31:52 AM »
András Wimmer?

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Re: PN #01
« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2009, 08:53:08 AM »
András Wimmer raced a BMW 328 and he was one of the best drivers of the early 1950s. But no, it's not him
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Re: PN #01
« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2009, 09:07:29 AM »
It must be Gábor Schumits, then.

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Re: PN #01
« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2009, 11:02:00 AM »
:) Yes, Gábor Schumits built this car cca 1947.

Will you make a guess about the name or should I reveal it? It was named after his two daughters: Gloria and Elisabeth
and it had something to do with the Earth...
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Re: PN #01
« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2009, 12:54:22 PM »
With your clues, the name was not so hard after all, given the fact that I tried each possibility befor the right one!

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Re: PN #01
« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2009, 12:56:06 PM »
No, I meant the name of the car. Schumits gave a name to this car. Would you like to have a go, or should I reveal it?
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Re: PN #01
« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2009, 01:30:51 PM »
I meant that, for the car, it was quite easy after all because there was a ,relatively, short list to choose from...but for the model name, It's a totally different matter...
..probably someone can find it, I already tried with no luck.

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Re: PN #01
« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2009, 02:29:36 PM »
It is not available on the internet. Anyone, would like to try his luck? Here's the hint again: "It was named after his two daughters: Gloria and Elisabeth (nicknamed Bea) and it had something to do with the Earth..."
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Re: PN #01
« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2009, 02:34:19 PM »
something like 'Global' ?

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Re: PN #01
« Reply #47 on: November 10, 2009, 02:46:26 PM »
something like Global...
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Re: PN #01
« Reply #48 on: November 10, 2009, 02:51:34 PM »
Globeau? ;D

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Re: PN #01
« Reply #49 on: November 10, 2009, 02:52:59 PM »
almost that. Just a tiny bit shorter
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