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Solved - PJ36- Motor Cycle Canoe by Mr Armstrong
« on: January 19, 2009, 03:19:10 PM »
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Re: PJ - 36
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2009, 09:48:11 AM »
your turn....
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Re: PJ - 36
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2009, 12:35:01 PM »
That's the relatively unknown "Hiawatha" bodied sidecar on an Indian motorcycle ;)
Or perhaps not.
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Re: PJ - 36
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2009, 12:51:59 PM »
I agree, it's a bit off-topic, in fact it's not a car manufacturer, but I've got a "company" name and the model is quite obvious!
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Re: PJ - 36
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2009, 08:37:00 AM »
final move...
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Re: PJ - 36
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2009, 09:15:07 AM »
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Re: PJ - 36
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2009, 08:33:10 AM »
Is it a Rudge-Whitworth "Canoe" Sidecar?
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Re: PJ - 36
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2009, 09:40:52 AM »
Is it a ----  "Canoe" Sidecar, not a Rudge-Whitworth, but pretty similar!

EDIT- Probably you are right...I'm checking better...
Does anybody know the name of Mr. Whitworth?
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Re: PJ - 36
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2009, 04:16:05 PM »
This one is really done.......
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Re: PJ - 36
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2009, 06:30:53 PM »
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 17, 2009, 09:40:52 AM

Does anybody know the name of Mr. Whitworth?
Whitworth, as in Rudge Whitworth, derives from the Birmingham "Whitworth Cycle Company" the origins of which were with Charles H Pugh Ltd of the Whitworth Works in Birmingham. They were manufacturers of screws and such-like, so I'd guess that the works was named Whitworth after (Sir) Joseph Whitworth, best known in connection with his development of a rationalised system of screw threads and for the screw threads that bear his name.
That is to say, I'm pretty sure there was no Mr Whitworth in the foundation of the Whitworth Cycle Co, but there was a Daniel Rudge (1841-1880), whose company Rudge Cycles was amalgamated with Whitworth.
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Re: PJ - 36
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2009, 06:34:13 PM »
Thank You, Allan, that's why now I'm pretty sure this one is not a Rudge-Whitworth.
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Re: PJ - 36
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2009, 03:45:04 AM »
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 28, 2009, 06:34:13 PM
Thank You, Allan, that's why now I'm pretty sure this one is not a Rudge-Whitworth.

The name of the founder of one of the companies that became Rudge-Whitworth precludes a vehicle being a Rudge-Whitworth? I don't follow your logic.  :scratch:

Above, you ask for the make and model of car. Are you then looking for the maker of the motorcycle, and not the sidecar?

The only other source of the picture you've posted identifies the "Motor Cycle Canoe", built by one "Mr Armstrong".
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Re: PJ - 36
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2009, 03:51:57 AM »
Also, "Canoe" sidecars were built for Rudge (and maybe for Mr. Armstrong?) by Salter Bros
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Re: PJ - 36
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2009, 09:33:33 AM »
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on May 29, 2009, 03:45:04 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 28, 2009, 06:34:13 PM
Thank You, Allan, that's why now I'm pretty sure this one is not a Rudge-Whitworth.

The name of the founder of one of the companies that became Rudge-Whitworth precludes a vehicle being a Rudge-Whitworth? I don't follow your logic. :scratch:

Above, you ask for the make and model of car. Are you then looking for the maker of the motorcycle, and not the sidecar?

The only other source of the picture you've posted identifies the "Motor Cycle Canoe", built by one "Mr Armstrong".

You found my source...it says that this is a Motor Cycle Canoe built by Mr.Armstrong. When I saw the Rudge-Whitworth sidecar I noticed that is was quite similar and was not that sure about my source, that's why, I thought that probably this Mr.Armstrong could be involved in the R-W concern. When Allan wrote the brief story of it I realized that this one was nothing more than a ' "Motor Cycle Canoe" built by one "Mr Armstrong' as you wrote, whit no relations with the R-W.

in a few words...you are right!
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Re: Solved - PJ36- Motor Cycle Canoe by Mr Armstrong
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2009, 07:00:06 AM »
Ah, yes.
There was also Sir W.G. Armstrong-Whitworth & Co. who made cars!
Can't recall whether the Whitworth traced back to Sir Joseph at present and haven't time to look it up.
Salters were renowned boat-builders and operators in Oxford, making the SL "Alaska"


which has been restored and on which I travelled only 20-odd years ago
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