Author Topic: Solved -PJ274- Adams Eight 35-40HP Touring 1906 & Mercer Raceabout 1915  (Read 2825 times)

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This one should not be too hard:
Here you are 2 cars, not too obscure at all.
3 points for the correct identification of the car + the connection between the 2.
2 point for identifying the 2 cars.
1 point for identifying only the connection.
I'll reply each guess with a clue.
This one will be soon moved to the Pro section with a BIG clue...


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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2009, 09:38:35 AM »
Have a go!

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2009, 05:58:03 PM »
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I'll reply each guess with a clue.
More guesses, more clues...
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This one will be soon moved to the Pro section with a BIG clue...
and then will be a matter of time...

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2009, 02:37:21 AM »
The cars seem to be of different makers?

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2009, 05:10:51 AM »
Different makes and different countries.

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2009, 07:43:52 AM »
The first one: Ajax?

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2009, 09:57:45 AM »
Not Ajax, but one car is from the USA.

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2009, 03:18:25 PM »
Do both cars have the bodyworks built by the same builder?

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2009, 04:55:44 PM »
Not the same bodywork builder, or engine\chassis\whatsoever common builder...

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2009, 01:32:49 PM »
...free for all!

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2009, 01:33:53 PM »
Both cars can be found on the web.

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2009, 02:26:06 PM »
Both cars can be found on the web.
Is that the connection?

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2009, 02:30:40 PM »
 :doh:
I just revealed the solution!
Ok, no panic, I found another connection.

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2009, 03:15:26 PM »
V8-V16 engine from the same builder?

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2009, 03:33:59 PM »
Not the same bodywork builder, or engine\chassis\whatsoever common builder...
These cars have not the same builder or engine or designer or nationality or year of construction.

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2009, 03:49:21 PM »
Picture 2 - They were brothers??

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2009, 03:59:41 PM »
I do not know but that is a very famous car, and if I had choose another version, it was solved in a flash...

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2009, 02:45:31 PM »
First V8-engined cars in their country?

First one is the British Adams V8 tourer from 1906 and I suspect the 2nd is the American Hewitt
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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2009, 02:51:13 PM »
The connection is not in the engine, or in the body , or in the technical specs of this car.
One car is correct, the other one is not, and it's an easy one: look at the shape of the radiator...
Another clue: the connection is not in the cars...

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2009, 03:54:48 PM »
Different makes and different countries
One car is from USA
Not the same bodywork builder, or engine\chassis\whatsoever common builder
Not the same builder or engine or designer or nationality or year of construction
One is a very famous car
The connection is not in the engine, or in the body , or in the technical specs of this car
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First one is the British Adams V8 tourer from 1906 and I suspect the 2nd is the American Hewitt
One car is correct, the other one is not, and it's an easy one: look at the shape of the radiator...
the connection is not in the cars...
One car is already identified, the other is a well known one...I'll post a definitive clue when both cars will be found...

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2009, 09:13:38 PM »
Given theclue on the shape of thr radiator grille, the secon can only be a Bugatti.
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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2009, 03:46:55 AM »
Given theclue on the shape of thr radiator grille, the secon can only be a Bugatti.
Got to be the only shaft-drive Bugatti with semi-elliptic rear springs in that case. ???
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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2009, 04:45:42 AM »
...no Bugattis here...
Pnegyesi identified one car...the remaining one is much easier.
...I'd like few more guesses before the final clue...
The unidentified car is like the Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8, or the Duesenberg Model J....a model that is very known and the masterpiece of that make...

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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2009, 05:25:44 AM »
2nd car is a Mercer Raceabout from 1915.
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Re: PJ - 274
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2009, 05:38:54 AM »
correct....
Since you are the one who found also the other, 2 points for you.
Now which is the connection between an Adams Eight 35-40HP Touring car from 1906 and a Mercer Raceabout from 1915?
I already wrote that the connection is not in the cars...
I have to leave now, see you tonight....