Author Topic: Solved -PJ135- SMZ S-3L 1956 (Read 5203 times)

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #25 on:** September 27, 2009, 08:35:21 AM »

Not that. The name I have is new to me too and it's not reported in any other source.

Arunas · « **Reply #26 on:** October 01, 2009, 11:50:58 AM »

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #27 on:** October 01, 2009, 12:17:20 PM »

Not IMZ.

faksta · « **Reply #28 on:** October 01, 2009, 03:30:56 PM »

And not ZMA, I guess?
Does it have 'Z' in the name?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #29 on:** October 01, 2009, 03:42:36 PM »

Thank you for the question, yes, one of these 3 letters is a 'Z'.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #30 on:** October 01, 2009, 03:57:19 PM »

That's just as well: Z for zavod (factory)

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #31 on:** October 01, 2009, 04:11:00 PM »

OK, time for another clue, the 'Z' in the middle.

faksta · « **Reply #32 on:** October 01, 2009, 05:41:59 PM »

Quote from: pnegyesi on October 01, 2009, 03:57:19 PM

That's just as well: Z for zavod (factory)

I was asking exactly because of this

Otherwise we could go in a completely wrong direction in case these three letters meant simply the word, and not a factory name

Quote from: Paul Jaray on October 01, 2009, 04:11:00 PM

OK, time for another clue, the 'Z' in the middle.

Hmm...

pnegyesi · « **Reply #33 on:** October 02, 2009, 12:41:22 AM »

KZA as in Kubishevsky Zavod Avtodetaley?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #34 on:** October 02, 2009, 05:20:17 AM »

Not KZA...

Arunas · « **Reply #35 on:** October 02, 2009, 10:31:04 AM »

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #36 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:11:29 PM »

Not SZM...

João · « **Reply #37 on:** October 02, 2009, 04:35:04 PM »

Could it be the CZL 8HP?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #38 on:** October 02, 2009, 04:49:11 PM »

Yes!
Tell me that you have some more info!

João · « **Reply #39 on:** October 02, 2009, 05:01:52 PM »

Unfortunately no $:-\$ ..
I have a collection of Brazilian car magazines from late 50´s called: Revistas de Automóveis,that shows exactly this article with the same info but in portuguese...

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #40 on:** October 02, 2009, 05:04:23 PM »

I'm sure our friends will have some info, at least on these letters, I'm afraid that something got ... lost in translation!

faksta · « **Reply #41 on:** October 02, 2009, 05:36:33 PM »

You know... I have a smooth feeling something indeed got lost. Written like this, it could be transliterated into Russian as СЗЛ, ЦЗЛ, С3(three)Л or Ц3(three)Л. To be honest, I think the text contains an information about S-3L (three, not Z - they're identic in Russian alphabet). As a proof: SMZ S3L was presented in 1956 and had a 7.5hp engine. But the maximum speed was just about 55kmh and, what is more important, it was a three-wheeler...
I'll have to find out more abou tthis car - it may well become some NAMI or SMZ own prototype or, or maybe there was indeed something called SZL and I may be completely mistaken.
Pictured are SMZ S-3L and a 1958 prototype called SMZ S-4A. Note how the design was meant to change - four wheels and a closed body, the ideas close to the car on a first picture.

Can I share the above article with text at another forum and try to get some information?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #42 on:** October 02, 2009, 06:01:51 PM »

That will be great.
My first idea was that too, S-3L, but as you wrote, and as your pics show, there is not such a model.
let's see how is going to end... (if ever)

faksta · « **Reply #43 on:** October 02, 2009, 10:24:38 PM »

OK, now we just wait.

Arunas · « **Reply #44 on:** October 03, 2009, 02:17:50 AM »

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #45 on:** October 10, 2009, 06:37:04 PM »

I'm moving this one to the solved section, waiting for updates...(if any)
2 points for João.

faksta · « **Reply #46 on:** October 11, 2009, 02:57:39 PM »

So, after some time of a very intriguing silence, I think this one may be finally identified. I'd like to thank those who has helped with it here:
http://rcforum.ru/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=659609#659609 and personally Dietryh for this picture from his personal archive.
The prototype should be called S-3L indeed and seemingly comes from 1956. You can also note a very interesting detail invisible from a previous point of view: the car has a retractable soft top.

Allemano · « **Reply #47 on:** October 12, 2009, 04:06:04 AM »

It's okay to thank those Russian guys, but following the link there are some other obscurities to find. Maybe you better remove it...

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #48 on:** October 12, 2009, 04:50:10 AM »

OK, since the true identity of this car was discovered by faksta, one point for his detective works is due.
About the link, if the guys who helped you want to be credited for that, I think it's nice to do it.

faksta · « **Reply #49 on:** October 12, 2009, 05:25:14 AM »

They asked to be credited, as they have provided the very rare picture from a personal archive. 'Photo credit links only, please' - I hope this fits.
And thanks, PJ

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Author Topic: Solved -PJ135- SMZ S-3L 1956 (Read 5203 times)