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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2009, 02:08:26 PM »
Yes!
Fly 1 - French Aero 1914                                                João
Fly 2 - Traction Aerienne 1921                                    Allan L
Fly 3 -  ???
Fly 4 - Helicron no.1 1932                                          Cabrius
Fly 5 - Clifford Robin's Propeller Car 1955                    Pguillem
Fly 6 -  ???
Fly 7 - Leyat Helica Sport 1913-14                              Pguillem
Fly 8 -  ???
Fly 9 - B. F. Ponder's self-built auto-plane 1934            Arunas
Fly 10 - Count Bertrand de Lesseps' Auto Aero 1912       @re
Fly 11 -  J. C. Thomas' 'Windmobile''                                  Arunas              
Fly 12 -  ???

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2009, 05:04:39 PM »
Bt1,2 and 3 have already a name...who will add the Bt4 and name them all will get the bonus point...

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2009, 03:59:11 AM »
Bt4 is the Begalet by Scarab Aviation Labs
Bt3 is the Jetstream
Bt2 is the FEI X-1
Bt1 is the Aerocar from Argentina

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2009, 04:55:36 AM »
Thus the whirligig of time brings in his AutoPuzzles.
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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2009, 03:14:19 PM »
Bt4 is the Begalet by Scarab Aviation Labs
Bt3 is the Jetstream
Bt2 is the FEI X-1
Bt1 is the Aerocar from Argentina
All correct!

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2009, 06:44:24 AM »
#11 - J. C. Thomas' 'Windmobile'' :)
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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2009, 12:04:44 PM »
Correct, and great picture!  :thumbsup:

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2009, 12:12:24 PM »
A very interesting car indeed! But I think, in order to solve this puzzle copletely some hinting may be needed.

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2009, 12:27:51 PM »
#3 - It's quite obscure, I have a blurred pic of the builder name so when someone will find it I can verify. It is French.
#6 - Self-built car, Continental aircraft engine. If you google the builder's name, here's the result:

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2009, 02:50:47 PM »
#8 - Guthrie Mitchell's Windjammer

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2009, 03:00:19 PM »
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Correct!

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2009, 08:10:13 AM »

Fly 1 - French Aero 1914                                                João
Fly 2 - Traction Aerienne 1921                                    Allan L
Fly 3 -  ???
Fly 4 - Helicron no.1 1932                                          Cabrius
Fly 5 - Clifford Robin's Propeller Car 1955                    Pguillem
Fly 6 -  ???
Fly 7 - Leyat Helica Sport 1913-14                              Pguillem
Fly 8 - Guthrie Mitchell's Windjammer                           Arunas
Fly 9 - B. F. Ponder's self-built auto-plane 1934            Arunas
Fly 10 - Count Bertrand de Lesseps' Auto Aero 1912       @re
Fly 11 -  J. C. Thomas' 'Windmobile''                                  Arunas              
Fly 12 -  ???

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2009, 03:13:59 PM »
#12 - Dringos?

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2009, 03:23:26 PM »
Not Diringos...another view with a clue:

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2009, 09:54:27 AM »
#12 - Croft?

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2009, 10:18:29 AM »
Not Croft...

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #41 on: November 19, 2009, 07:28:04 AM »
#12 - Menkenns?

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #42 on: November 19, 2009, 07:31:31 AM »
Not that, but in the same book you can find this...

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2009, 09:30:48 AM »
#12 - Canzol 1931

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2009, 09:37:46 AM »
Correct!
Fly 1 - French Aero 1914                                                João
Fly 2 - Traction Aerienne 1921                                    Allan L
Fly 3 -  ???
Fly 4 - Helicron no.1 1932                                          Cabrius
Fly 5 - Clifford Robin's Propeller Car 1955                    Pguillem
Fly 6 -  ???
Fly 7 - Leyat Helica Sport 1913-14                              Pguillem
Fly 8 - Guthrie Mitchell's Windjammer                           Arunas
Fly 9 - B. F. Ponder's self-built auto-plane 1934            Arunas
Fly 10 - Count Bertrand de Lesseps' Auto Aero 1912       @re
Fly 11 -  J. C. Thomas' 'Windmobile''                                  Arunas              
Fly 12 -  Canzol 1931                                                         Jotage21
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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2009, 09:43:15 AM »
Here's the #3

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2009, 10:33:16 AM »
This tells us that it was made by Robert Bourbeau and Henri Devaux, who were the owners of Bédélia (same address, 32 rue Félicien David). So I guess it's a Bédélia, but i still have to check.
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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2009, 10:49:49 AM »
Finally!
I thought it was that, but was waiting for an expert on French cars... I have no record of a Bédélia like this, but the coincidences are many...can you find any prove of that?

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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2009, 11:24:56 AM »
If you google the address, you will easily find a page about Bedelia, with the name of its two owners (not fully readable on your picture). But I could find no relation between Bedelia and this propeller car. Except that in 1911 a special model equipped with a airplane engine won the course de côte of Gaillon. Had this special model also a propeller?

In the meantime, let's call it simply a Bourbeau-Devaux.
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Re: PJ - 120 Let's fly away!
« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2009, 11:39:26 AM »
On the plate, I think you can read (bottom left) BD2.

BD2 was a model name for the Bedelia. Maybe this car was a special order from a special customer (they did this quite often, I read), a try at a propeller-type car.
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