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Solved -PJ-31- Cheswold 15.9 HP 1912
« on: January 11, 2009, 10:33:11 AM »
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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2009, 11:48:08 AM »
I don't know what it is at the time, but I think it's a swell idea to carry a spare wheel without a spare tire.
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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2009, 12:15:22 PM »
Probably the owner travels with his wife....  ;)
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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2009, 12:19:32 PM »
I don't know what it is at the time, but I think it's a swell idea to carry a spare wheel without a spare tire.

I'll give you a BIG hint...if you use ALL the letters of your previous reply you'll be able to form the name of the maker only once.

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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2009, 03:34:46 PM »
I'd say Clement Bayard, c1910 possible 20CV
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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2009, 03:36:21 PM »
Not a Clement Bayard...

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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2009, 03:38:13 PM »
In that case, perhaps Theophile Schneider, but somehow doesn't seem quite right.
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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2009, 03:47:47 PM »
 Not a Theophile Schneider or a Clement Bayard, but a less known one...

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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2009, 04:09:08 PM »
French, though?
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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2009, 04:23:32 PM »
Not French...

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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2009, 04:27:48 AM »
I've never seen a photo of one, but the 23.8 hp Arrol-Johnston of 1911 should look rather like that
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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2009, 04:53:33 AM »
More obscure than an Arrol-Johnston.

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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2009, 01:09:10 PM »
I just had to try.

While Clement Bayard and Theophile Schneider are both possible to spell, but only once, using the letters in Allan L's first reply; there is no J in it, so it couldn't be Arrol-Johnson ;D

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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2009, 02:34:08 PM »
You are right about that, but what about your try?

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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2009, 09:56:01 PM »
Allrighty then.

This is the 1911-15 Cheswold, built by E.W. Jackson in Doncaster, England, and named after a local stream. This exact example is currently on display at the Doncaster Museum and Art Gallery. Don't know of any model designation, though, it's only described as the Cheswold Car on the museum's web site, but it was a tourer, powered by a 15.9 hp, 2.612 cc 4-cylinder engine.

Today, the car in the picture looks like this (and you might be pleased to see that the spare tyre is again in place):
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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2009, 04:39:32 AM »
Well done @re!
I'm a lot nearer Doncaster than you are, but I still admit to having never heard of the Cheswold before. The text you quote must be from Georgano where there is a photo of a different car with an earlier West Riding registration (C 5***).

Of couse I forgot the clue when posting A-J - more concerned with thinking about what it looked like (which it does).
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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2009, 05:21:30 AM »
Nice one, @re!
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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2009, 08:03:21 AM »
I'll be honest and admit that I hadn't heard of Cheswold, either. But I thought I'd have a quick flip through the Encyclopedia just to see if any of the Renault-ish cars of that era looked similar enough to it - and what do you know, I didn't have to page through more than three letters :)
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Re: PJ - 31
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2009, 11:20:52 AM »
I think we all agree...that's a Cheswold 15.9 HP, the only model made by this manufacturer. Well done, and by the way I found 3 pics, with 3 different registrations:   C9331, C4849 and C59**

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Re: Solved -PJ-31- Cheswold 15.9 HP 1912
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2011, 06:23:33 AM »
Another photo..