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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2009, 08:43:29 PM »
#7:   1933 SS Tourer?   This one is so weird!
#10: 1922 HE 14-40hp Tourer
#11: 1911 FD (Front Drive)
#16: 1913 HP Cyclecar

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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2009, 07:50:00 AM »
#7 is actually a 1935 SS Mark II, but I'll give you the point since you got the make right. BTW, I saw this car & took the pic myself. It was displayed as a "1935 Jaguar."  ::)  Is it just me or do some people call all SS cars "Jaguars"?

I have #10 as a 1924 HE and don't have the model name handy. Another point, anyway.

#11 is not an FD.

#16 is not an HP.
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2009, 08:23:48 AM »
#7 is actually a 1935 SS Mark II, but I'll give you the point since you got the make right. BTW, I saw this car & took the pic myself. It was displayed as a "1935 Jaguar."  ::)  Is it just me or do some people call all SS cars "Jaguars"?

Some do, and they are wrong!
According to Paul Skilliter, the SS Jaguar name was introduced in September 1935 for the 1936  OHV cars such as the SS Jaguar 100. As that was not retrospective, the sidevalve cars were (and therefore still should be) still called S.S. I, S.S. II and S.S. 90
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2009, 08:27:23 AM »
No 13: a shot in the dark, WM aka Weiss Manfréd from Hungary?
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2009, 08:35:49 AM »
Sorry, it's not a Weiss Manfred -- which, according to the info I have, would be known by the full name & not the initials.

A couple of hints:
(1) One make has been guessed that's in the puzzle, but it was guessed it for the wrong car. *Edit* - Disregard this hint; it was made in error.
(2) Every remaining unguessed car was made in one of two countries.
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2009, 12:35:31 PM »
Number 11 is a 1925 L.B. from France?

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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2009, 12:36:26 PM »
Nope, but France is one of the countries.
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2009, 02:18:51 PM »
Number 16: JG Sport was a French automobile manufactured from 1922 until 1923..this one?

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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2009, 02:34:42 PM »
And Number #11 is a 1922 AL Sport?

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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2009, 04:09:41 PM »
Both of these cars are French but those are not the correct names.
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2009, 12:53:25 AM »
No 4: MS Voiturette
No 11: AN Cyclecar by Allain and Niguet, France, early 1920s
No16: AS Cyclecar built in Courbevoie between 1926-1928
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2009, 02:55:30 AM »
Hmm, the remaining three.

No 13: Is that an FN?
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2009, 07:50:40 AM »
Very good on 4, 11 & 16! (I have slightly earlier dates for when the AS was made, but oh well.)

13 is not an FN. The remaining three are either from France or another country.
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2009, 08:03:38 AM »
Looking at your clues, one of the remaining three is most probably an FD

Am I right?
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2009, 08:05:15 AM »
Nope - no FD to be found here.
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2009, 08:08:44 AM »
Then maybe No3 is a HP?
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2009, 08:20:59 AM »
No HP here either.
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2009, 08:25:43 AM »
Well, you said a brand was guessed which is in the puzzle but not for the right car. So the only one left is AC. Like No12, could that be an AC?
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2009, 08:27:55 AM »
Sorry, my mistake -- I was referring to HE being guessed for the wrong car, forgetting it had been guessed for the right one in the meantime. Disregard that statement, please.
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2009, 09:54:29 AM »
AP03 is an LM (Little Midland) Light Car from 1920. Made in Blackburn, UK

Two more to go :)
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2009, 09:56:20 AM »
I may as well try guessing:
- could No 13 be an NP touring car from UK, around 1923?
- could No 12 be a WW light car also from UK?
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2009, 10:01:41 AM »
#3 is indeed an LM. There is no NP or WW here.

Some more hints: One of the remaining cars is British and one is French. One is perhaps better known for a less conventional kind of car than is seen here. Both names could be followed by "no relation to..."
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #47 on: October 23, 2009, 10:07:57 AM »
I think No12 is British. Is that a HP or Hilton Peacey?
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #48 on: October 23, 2009, 10:18:02 AM »
#12 is the British one, but an HP it is not.
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Re: Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle
« Reply #49 on: October 23, 2009, 01:14:29 PM »
#12: a DS otherwise known as Stafford?
#13: an O.P. from France?
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