Author Topic: SOLVED - Happily Ever After? - by Arunas, Ray B, neilshouse, DynaMike, Paul Jaray, Graber and Allemano  (Read 7338 times)

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Re: Happily Ever After?
« Reply #50 on: December 20, 2008, 06:43:41 PM »
You are too good, but I just recognized the #18, than google told me about a Diane Lane I didn't know, and I found a Lambert that is excatly the same as #10 and I know that there is a Lambert  that had a tourer model in 1917 and car #17 is the same as every car from that period! So I do not deserve credit for the match (if it is correct...).

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Re: Happily Ever After?
« Reply #51 on: December 20, 2008, 06:55:32 PM »
#10 Clark Steam car 1904-1905
"T. H. Clark Sr. designed this steam car & drove from Delaware to Marion to hear Harding speak when he first became President. Tom drove, Pearl & Grace (his sisters) rode. The car was built for Dr. Willy and was the first steam engine car built in Delaware."

#18 Lane 30hp Steam tourer 1909 and #10 Clark Steamer
Loris Lane and Clark Kent
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Re: Happily Ever After?
« Reply #52 on: December 20, 2008, 07:18:27 PM »
About that Clark...there is a
Clark in Lansing, Michigan, from 1910-1911
Clark Special in Tell City, indiana in 1905,
Clark Carriage company of Chicaco in 1910,
Clark Motor Company in Buffalo, New York 1912-1915,
Clark Motor Car Company of Luisville, Kentucky in 1911,
Clark E.W. in New London, Connecticut in 1905,
Clark A. James Company in Upstate, New York
Clark in Cambridge, Massachusetts, 1899-1905,
Clark in Moline, Illinois (1897-1901),
Clark in Vicksburg, Michigan in 1901,
Clark in Detroit, Michigan in 1904,
Clark in Bozeman, Montana in1908,
Clark Electric in Buffalo, New York in 1910,
Clark in Shelbyville, Indiana, 1910-1912,
Clark Electric in Pkiladelphia, Pennsylvania, 1903-1905,
Clark Electric in Toledo, Ohio, 1909-1910,
Clark Electric in Buffalo, New York in 1910-1911,
Clark-Hatfield in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, 1908-1909,
Clark-Norwalk in Cleveland, Ohio in 1910,
Clark Special in Anderson, Indiana 1908,
Clark Steam Car in Boston, Massachussets in 1900-1909,
and a
Clark-Mobile in Lansing, Michigan 1903-1911...

why the hell you took a home-built car from Delaware!!!!!!!

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Re: Happily Ever After?
« Reply #53 on: December 20, 2008, 09:53:52 PM »
Why do you think? ;D

It is indeed the Clark steam car from Delaware, and you found it - so you shall have all three points, for the Clark, the Lane and the pairing:
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Re: Happily Ever After?
« Reply #54 on: December 20, 2008, 09:55:23 PM »
Only one pairing left, and one of the cars has already been identified. I suspect you're expecting this pairing to be quite a lot harder than it actually is...
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Re: Happily Ever After?
« Reply #55 on: December 21, 2008, 05:14:57 AM »
Paul, you amaze me.
@re, you amaze me too, but I wish you had chosen a less corny and phony Superman. A Reeves for instance. I'm not saying George, but at least Christopher.
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Re: Happily Ever After?
« Reply #56 on: December 21, 2008, 04:30:59 PM »
I wish you had chosen a less corny and phony Superman.

I agree. It was a bad choice.
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Re: Happily Ever After?
« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2009, 01:17:40 PM »
Only one pairing left, and one of the cars has already been identified. I suspect you're expecting this pairing to be quite a lot harder than it actually is...
I am unable to find it myself, but this should be easy for connoisseurs of prewar cars.
We have an Alfa Romeo Giulia to match with a 1920's car (not British) whose name should be Juliet or Capulet. I couldn't find no brand by that name so I guess it's a model.
Of course we can search a match for Alfa or Giulia but I see none...
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Re: Happily Ever After?
« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2009, 02:08:52 PM »
Yes, you have an Alfa Romeo Giulia to match with a 1920's car - I'll give you the exact year, as it is somewhat significant: It's from 1921.

To that I'll add another fact: If I had chosen an older car from this particular brand, the match would be impossible.

This should make it a lot easier. Go ahead and solve it - I've got another one ready ;)
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Re: Happily Ever After?
« Reply #59 on: January 13, 2009, 07:40:24 PM »
Wise guy, huh?
I found Car #17. It's another Alfa Romeo, a 1921 20/30 hp, ha ha!

So we have, as I suppose you intended Car #17 (Alfa Romeo) and Car #9 (Alfa Romeo Giulia)
Except that it's wrong and you misled us, because they're not Romeo and Giulia, real italian youngsters, but Romeo and Juliet, fictitious characters in an english play. I was somehow intrigued by this Giulia, that's why I asked if you used the exact spelling. When you said yes I dismissed the "Giulia" car and started searching for a Juliet, as others I suppose.
Well, no hard feelings. The shame of it must be a sufficient burden.

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Re: Happily Ever After?
« Reply #60 on: January 14, 2009, 03:44:27 AM »
Ah, yes, that 1921 clue must have something to do with the takeover (in 1915) of ALFA by Nicola Romeo. Although I understood that the Alfa Romeo name was used post-war, perhaps there were no cars at all in 1919 and 1920.
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Re: Happily Ever After?
« Reply #61 on: January 14, 2009, 06:46:18 AM »
Production restarted in 1919, but at first under the old name ALFA. Only in late 1920 the company (and the cars) became Alfa Romeo.
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Re: Happily Ever After?
« Reply #62 on: January 14, 2009, 12:44:20 PM »
Wise guy, huh?
I found Car #17. It's another Alfa Romeo, a 1921 20/30 hp, ha ha!

So we have, as I suppose you intended Car #17 (Alfa Romeo) and Car #9 (Alfa Romeo Giulia)
Except that it's wrong and you misled us, because they're not Romeo and Giulia, real italian youngsters, but Romeo and Juliet, fictitious characters in an english play. I was somehow intrigued by this Giulia, that's why I asked if you used the exact spelling. When you said yes I dismissed the "Giulia" car and started searching for a Juliet, as others I suppose.
Well, no hard feelings. The shame of it must be a sufficient burden.

Yeah, you're right about that thing with the spelling. When you asked that question I had some other names in mind, and didn't think of this one. For that I am sorry! I guess, then, that justice prevailed when it was you who found it. Giulia is, however, what she would have been in her 'native' Italy. But you knew that, that's why you asked. Shame on me.

The 20/30 hp was the first car to carry the name Alfa Romeo, as far as I know. That's why I picked that one.
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Re: Happily Ever After?
« Reply #63 on: January 14, 2009, 12:49:48 PM »
Don't worry. I had fun searching, and feeling so clever when I eventually had the idea of searching for another Romeo...
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Re: Happily Ever After?
« Reply #64 on: January 14, 2009, 12:53:55 PM »
Good!

This is the final list:

Arunas 7 points
Ray B. 7 points 6 points
neilshouse 6 points
DynaMike 4 points
Paul Jaray 3 points
Graber 1 point 2 points
Allemano 1 point

Edit: To be fair, I should give Graber the point for matching Romeo and Giulia - he was the first to guess the connection.

And here are the two legendary lovers:
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Giulia is, however, what she would have been in her 'native' Italy. But you knew that, that's why you asked. Shame on me.

I think this is wrong as well. The couple was Romeo and Giulietta and nobody in Italy refer to her with that name. That's also the origin of the "Giulietta" name for the other Alfa Romeo's model: to have the couple togheter again.The Alfa Romeo Giulietta, in fact was called "la fidanzata d'Italia" (Italy's girlfriend).

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 :crap:

Let's forget this as soon as possible, shall we?

There'll be no such mistakes in my next couple puzzle!
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