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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2009 => Topic started by: Allemano on November 19, 2008, 03:32:30 PM
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With permission of the famous Otto Puzzle I'd like to post a new 'design topic'. In this puzzle I've focused on European design. Nevertheless I hope also Not-Europeans will get an easy access to this challenge!
Below you see a range of ten products. Each of them is related to a famous designer.
To a great extent all of those designers were involved in at least one car project during their career.
Some of these mysteries are quite easy to solve, but some will be fairly hard nuts to crack!
I only accept complete replys! That means I like to know the name of the designer, the name of the product and at least one related car project.
Due to the fact that these mysteries are of different difficulty ratings I've written how many points are to score for each!
I started this topic at the Expert section first, but guess it'll be moved to the Pros in a few days...
But now: enjoy!
01 (5 points) @re
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/by%20Design%20II/01.jpg)
02 (3 points) neilshouse
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/by%20Design%20II/02.jpg)
03 (3 points) SeaLion
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/by%20Design%20II/03.jpg)
04 (4 points) SeaLion
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/by%20Design%20II/04.jpg)
05 (3 points) neilshouse
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/by%20Design%20II/05.jpg)
06 (4 points) SeaLion
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/by%20Design%20II/06.jpg)
07 (5 points) pnegyesi
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/by%20Design%20II/07.jpg)
08 (5 points)75america
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/by%20Design%20II/08.jpg)
09 (4 points) Ehhxekt
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/by%20Design%20II/09.jpg)
10 (4 points) SeaLion
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/by%20Design%20II/10.jpg)
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I've changed my mind. It's now free for all!
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Why the high points totals available?
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Do you think? You gave four for each in the By Design 1 topic. I'll give 3, 4 and 5 — average 4!
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#09 is the Alweg 'Monorotaia' at the Esposizione Italia 61 in Torino. Designer was Tom Tjaarda, creator of the Chevrolet Corvette Rondine and Fiat 2300 Lausanne Coupé, to mention only two of my favourites of his works.
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#09 is the Alweg 'Monorotaia' at the Esposizione Italia 61 in Torino. Designer was Tom Tjaarda, creator of the Chevrolet Corvette Rondine and Fiat 2300 Lausanne Coupé, to mention only two of my favourites of his works.
Well done! 4 points for you! :)
But please be patient for a while. I'll tally the points when everything's finished!
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#5 is the pasta Marille, designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro, the designer responsible for, among many others, the Lancia Delta, Alfasud, Lotus Esprit, Gordon Keeble, Fiat Dino Coupe, etc.
#2 is the Steinway 125th Anniversary Limited Edition Grand Piano, designed by Count Albrecht von Goertz, who was also the designer of the BMW 507.
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Well, it isn't so hard to find out what the first one is. But its design was done by a company rather than one designer - and even if I try to find out what the man who is head of the company has done, I can't find any reference to car design. Where did I go wrong?
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But its design was done by a company rather than one designer - and even if I try to find out what the man who is head of the company has done ...
It's indeed related to the head/founder of the company.
Where did I go wrong?
Maybe you haven't the right sources...
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#5 is the pasta Marille, designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro, the designer responsible for, among many others, the Lancia Delta, Alfasud, Lotus Esprit, Gordon Keeble, Fiat Dino Coupe, etc.
#2 is the Steinway 125th Anniversary Limited Edition Grand Piano, designed by Count Albrecht von Goertz, who was also the designer of the BMW 507.
Correct in both! :)
I'm afraid they were too easy.. (I still have to practice setting up proper group puzzles. :-\)
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#3 is a Grundig M55 911 TV designed by F.A. Porsche (Porsche Design).
#4 is the swedish Husqvarna 21 sewing machine (in USA these was sold as Viking). Who designed it? I don´t know. Sixten Sason? (my mother have one of these machines)
#6 is Olivetti Divisumma 18 calculator designed by Mario Bellini in 1972.
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Stunning! :)
But....the cars are missing and be a bit more specific about the sewing machine. It has a particular 'name'! BTW: Sixten Sason is correct!
I keep it open for you for two hours!
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The Husqvarna 21 was made from 1955 to 1966 in 3 versions 21, 21A and 21E. All these was also called Automatic.
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The sewing mashine is a bit older.
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Stunning! :)
I'm an industrial product designer. ;)
One of my own designs from 15 years ago, a Grepa electric cooker:
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9771/grepa46bt0.jpg)
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Stunning! :)
I'm an industrial product designer. ;)
That's also stunning, me too! :)
EDIT: would you please name the related cars?
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The sewing mashine is a bit older.
There was a model called 20 that was produced from 1953.
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There was a model called 20 that was produced from 1953.
That's it, but I'm still waitin for its nickname and of the related cars...
Are two hours sufficiant time?
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EDIT: would you please name the related cars?
F.A. Porsche designed the Porsche 901, which was renamed as the 911, because Peugeot had a trademark in France for x0x-numbers.
Sixten Sason designed the Saab 92, Saab 99 and the Saab Sonett.
Mario Bellini have worked for Fiat, Lancia and Renault, his most remarked design was the dashboard for the Lancia Thema Volumex:
(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8031/volumex2707200226tdb3seww5.jpg)
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Well, I know the name of the designer of #1, and I've found out which company he was at one time associated with, and which year - but I can't find any references to which car he helped design. The company where he spent one year, did in that year present one of the most legendary cars of all time. Was he in any way associated with designing this?
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Correct, but in the Pro section nit picking is en vogue: I need the correct model designation of the sewing mashine!
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BTW: Bellini's even more famous ' car design was for the Kar'a sutra...
Arrgh. And there goes another future puzzle...
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Well, I know the name of the designer of #1, and I've found out which company he was at one time associated with, and which year - but I can't find any references to which car he helped design. The company where he spent one year, did in that year present one of the most legendary cars of all time. Was he in any way associated with designing this?
Not that I'm aware of! Tell me the name of the car you've meant. No harm will follow! ;)
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Arrgh. And there goes another future puzzle...
Ooops, I'm so sorry! :(
It's deleted, but don't post it in the Expert or Pro section soon...
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There was a model called 20 that was produced from 1953.
That's it, but I'm still waitin for its nickname
Zig-Zag:
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2135/husqvarna201953pq1.jpg)
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well done! :)
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Let me just spill the beans. If somebody else gets the point, it's OK.
The 500 series Shinkansen high-speed Japanese passenger train was designed by German company Neumeister Design in the early 1990s. Head of design at Neumeister design is Alexander Neumeister (1941-), who studied industrial design in Ulm between 1963 and 1968. In 1966, he won an international design competition arranged by Bertone (who in 1966 introduced the Lamborghini Miura to an unsuspecting world).
I know that he also designed an off-road car as part of his diploma work, but I have no idea of what car that might have been. So I'm lost.
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No, you did well!!! :)
It's indeed the Bertone design competition award. Actually the car hasn't had a certain name to my knowledge. Do you think you could manage posting a picture of this car? And would you tell me the name of the award?
Recently I've contacted Neumeister Design to get more additional infos about the car, but obviousely they had more important things to do...
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Do you think you could manage posting a picture of this car? And would you tell me the name of the award?
No, I have never seen it and I have no idea what it looks like. My sources don't tell me more than I've already said - I think that if I'm going to find out more I'll have to buy the book that's been written on the guy...
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Do you think you could manage posting a picture of this car? And would you tell me the name of the award?
No, I have never seen it and I have no idea what it looks like. My sources don't tell me more than I've already said - I think that if I'm going to find out more I'll have to buy the book that's been written on the guy...
At least to tell the name of the award should be duck soup! ;) To get the points you have to name it and on which category Neumeister won the award!
BTW: I haven't got the book, but two (fuzzy) pics..
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The Neumeister puzzle is in 'hold' position for @re till tomorrow morning
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The name of the award is the "Grifo d'Oro". As he did design a sportscar, I'm guessing that there was a sportscar category...
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#10 wouldn't by any chance be a Giugiaro ski boot? He patented one in 1992 (patent no. D326761), and this one does look a bit like it has his design language of the time. I got a certain Machimoto vibe ;)
If so, the car could be... let's see... the VW Golf, for example.
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No, Giugiaro was the one with the noodle.. ;D
Each of the products is related to a different designer!
About the award: Grifo D'Oro is correct, but the name of Neumeister's particular award is something more specific. There were two different catagories. (for designers a well known term and it's not to hard too guess!)
If you agree I would give you four points for this puzzle (one point less). If you disagree the puzzle's still open for all.
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If you say that there are two different categories, that should make it easier - as Enrico Fumia seems to have won the Junior award that year, I'm guessing that the other category was for Seniors, or maybe professional designers.
About the points: You're the master of this puzzle, I'll go with whatever you decide.
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Mario Bellini have worked for Fiat, Lancia and Renault, his most remarked design was the dashboard for the Lancia Thema Volumex:
(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8031/volumex2707200226tdb3seww5.jpg)
Lancia Trevi methinks ;)
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If you say that there are two different categories, that should make it easier - as Enrico Fumia seems to have won the Junior award that year, I'm guessing that the other category was for Seniors, or maybe professional designers.
About the points: You're the master of this puzzle, I'll go with whatever you decide.
Senior Award is correct! :) 5 points!
Here's a compilation of the price winners: (kind of 'Who is Who?' of European automotive design!)
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Grifo-DOro-1966.jpg)
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#10 is a ski-boot, the Dachstein Scarpone Sci from 1978. Design by Paulo Martin. He have work for Pininfarina, and was responsible for cars like Rolls Royce Camargue, Fiat 130 Coupé, Ferrari Modulo 512, Peugeot 104 and Lancia Beta Montecarlo. He also designed the famous edgy b logo for Bertone.
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#10 is a ski-boot, the Dachstein Scarpone Sci from 1978. Design by Paulo Martin. He have work for Pininfarina, and was responsible for cars like Rolls Royce Camargue, Fiat 130 Coupé, Ferrari Modulo 512, Peugeot 104 and Lancia Beta Montecarlo. He also designed the famous edgy b logo for Bertone.
That's correct! :)
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#7 - Is this object used in photography?
#8 - Is the designer Italian?
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#7 - Yes!
#8 - Yes!
I've forgotten some details, wait a moment I'll give some clues! :D
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#7: The designer of this product was head of design at one of the most important European car companies. Few years ago he left that company for a new job challenge at the Far East...
The man behind #8 worked as far as I know always as a freelancer, but made one of the most remarkable 4-seaters of the eighties...
enough?
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#7 -
Walter De Silva - Chris Bangle - Bruno Sacco - Patrick Le Quément - Ian Callum - Luc Donckerwolke - Wolfgang Egger
So far so good?
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Yes, none of them!
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#7: The designer of this product was head of design at one of the most important European car companies. Few years ago he left that company for a new job challenge at the Far East...
The man behind #8 worked as far as I know always as a freelancer, but made one of the most remarkable 4-seaters of the eighties...
enough?
That four-seater was a controversial Italian sportscar as well. C'mon!
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08
Beneteau Monte Carlo 37 open
Pierangelo Andreani
Maserati Biturbo
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I actually meant the Ferrari Mondial, but never mind.
You found the boat and the name of the designer! Well done!
ding! ding! ding! ding! ding! ;)
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Only #07 left and another 5 points to score
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To get's this finally done:
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No7: Minox DD1 digital camera from 2003. It seems it was designed by Peter Schreyer, who designed the original Audi TT, the previous generation Audi A4 and A3 before he went on to become chief designer at Kia in 2006.
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No7: Minox DD1 digital camera from 2003. It seems it was designed by Peter Schreyer, who designed the original Audi TT, the previous generation Audi A4 and A3 before he went on to become chief designer at Kia in 2006.
pnegyesi you're in good shape these days and of course you are right! :)
5 points for finally solving this!
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I'm in a little trouble now... I don't know if I've already given the points to the candidates..
I've added 5 points for pnegyesi for sure and I believe I already gave 75america his points as well. Would he (if possible!) please confirm this? :-\
I'm pretty sure that I hadn't rewarded the other puzzlers, yet!
The final score:
SeaLion: 3 + 4 + 4 + 4 = 15 pts awarded
neilshouse: 3 + 3 = 6 pts awarded
@re: 5 pts awarded
Ehhxekt: 5 pts awarded
75america: 5 pts ?? awarded
pnegysesi: 5 pts awarded
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I don't know how to look up when points were awarded. That's why I wait until my grouped puzzles are done before awarding points.
In this instance, I'd award the points you think are due, and if somebody knows you should do differently, let them post now, or forever hold their peace.
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Yes usually I do it like that, but in this case – after a long period of silence – it could be that I rewarded 75america's points just after he'd responded. (ding! ding!....)
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I'm pretty sure you indeed already awarded me the points.
(In the past, I checked out Peter Schreyer but I was not able to find a track that linked him with non-automotive design. >:()
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Thanks for clearing this up! :thumbsup: