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Title: Solved 261. of All. - 1971 Ogo Phantom
Post by: Allemano on June 26, 2009, 04:08:31 PM: Guess the car and get a point!
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Post by: Allemano on July 13, 2009, 03:19:45 AM: to the advanced course...
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Post by: Allemano on July 30, 2009, 04:41:42 AM: Pro time!
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 30, 2009, 04:47:37 AM: Based on an E-Type Jag?
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Post by: Allemano on July 30, 2009, 04:49:36 AM: No!
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 30, 2009, 05:01:26 AM: Corvair connection?
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Post by: Allemano on July 30, 2009, 05:02:32 AM: Quote from: Otto Puzzell on July 30, 2009, 05:01:26 AM
Corvair connection?
Neither!
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 30, 2009, 05:19:37 AM: Last guess (for now): was Paul Bracq involved in designing it?
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Post by: Allemano on July 30, 2009, 05:28:59 AM: I'm sorry to stop the discussion here. :(
It has nothing to do with Paul Bracq.
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 30, 2009, 05:33:20 AM: No worries - I have to go to work. If it's not guessed in my absence, I'll have another go later. :)
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Post by: Allemano on July 30, 2009, 05:37:25 AM: Quote from: Otto Puzzell on July 30, 2009, 05:33:20 AM
No worries - I have to go to work. If it's not guessed in my absence, I'll have another go later. :)

Very likely I guess!
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Post by: grobmotorix on July 30, 2009, 01:52:26 PM: Montreal ZX Murena ;D
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Post by: Allemano on July 30, 2009, 01:54:20 PM: "Der Kanditat hat leider keinen Punkt!"
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Post by: Allemano on September 20, 2009, 06:53:02 AM: time for another view:
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Post by: Arunas on September 20, 2009, 07:11:28 AM: American?
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Post by: Allemano on September 20, 2009, 07:12:33 AM: Not American.
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Post by: guido66 on September 20, 2009, 07:16:11 AM: German?
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Post by: Allemano on September 20, 2009, 07:34:07 AM: Not German, but you're getting closer.
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Post by: Arunas on September 20, 2009, 07:36:54 AM: Austrian?
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Post by: Allemano on September 20, 2009, 07:39:04 AM: Quote from: Arunas on September 20, 2009, 07:36:54 AM
Austrian?

close, but no cigar!
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Post by: Arunas on September 20, 2009, 07:46:41 AM: Schweiz?
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Post by: Allemano on September 20, 2009, 07:51:57 AM: Yes it's from Switzerland.
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Post by: jotage21 on September 20, 2009, 12:09:01 PM: Berger?
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Post by: Allemano on September 20, 2009, 01:13:38 PM: I don't know Berger, except of that weird Austrian actor...
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Post by: jotage21 on September 21, 2009, 07:01:02 PM: Gronos?
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Post by: Allemano on September 21, 2009, 09:43:33 PM: not Gronos, but somehow it sounds more similar to the original name than your last guess....
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Post by: Arunas on September 22, 2009, 02:31:22 AM: Bergmann? :D
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Post by: Allemano on September 22, 2009, 02:41:28 AM: Not Bergmann... ( ??? )
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Post by: Allemano on September 22, 2009, 03:06:20 AM: Quote from: Allemano on September 21, 2009, 09:43:33 PM
not Gronos, but somehow it sounds more similar to the original name than your last guess....
It may confuse you too much, forget that.

The names are still completely different. They only share something, but not enough to say that they are really similar...
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Post by: Allemano on September 22, 2009, 07:37:02 AM: BTW: what is Gronos? ???
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Post by: jotage21 on September 22, 2009, 09:27:17 AM: A swiss car from the 70´s that I don´t have any picture, so I supposed that could be thid one.

Gryff?
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Post by: Allemano on September 22, 2009, 09:36:06 AM: Not Gryff either...

BTW: What is Gryff? ???
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Post by: jotage21 on September 22, 2009, 10:59:00 AM: Another swiss car from the 70´s that I don´t have any picture.

Gerber?

BTW: Gerber is a swiss car from the 70´s that I don´t have any picture.
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Post by: Allemano on September 22, 2009, 11:13:45 AM: ;D Not Gerber..
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Post by: Arunas on September 22, 2009, 11:30:03 AM: Is it a one-off special?
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Post by: Allemano on September 22, 2009, 11:34:35 AM: Yes.
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Post by: jotage21 on September 28, 2009, 05:40:53 PM: Heck?

Another swiss car from the 70´s that I don´t have any picture.
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Post by: Allemano on September 29, 2009, 01:03:48 AM: What the Heck.....?..................Not Heck, I'm sorry!
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Post by: jotage21 on October 10, 2009, 11:40:41 AM: Fuffi (Another swiss car from the 70´s that I don´t have any picture).
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Post by: Allemano on October 10, 2009, 01:13:45 PM: Not "Fuffi"
Looking forward to more Swiss obscurities you're digging...
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Post by: pnegyesi on October 11, 2009, 03:58:43 AM: Can we pinpoint a year? Between 1972-1974?
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Post by: Allemano on October 11, 2009, 04:23:53 AM: a little earlier...
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Post by: pnegyesi on October 11, 2009, 04:38:49 AM: 1971?
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Post by: Allemano on October 11, 2009, 04:43:55 AM: Sorry to disappoint you for the moment, but I have to check it at home first. If I remember correctly it's from 1970 or 1971.
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Post by: guido66 on October 11, 2009, 08:06:49 AM: Is it based on a BMW?
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Post by: Allemano on October 11, 2009, 08:09:53 AM: No, it isn't.
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Post by: jotage21 on October 16, 2009, 05:05:28 PM: Ogo?
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Post by: Allemano on October 17, 2009, 04:06:30 AM: Quote from: jotage21 on October 16, 2009, 05:05:28 PM
Ogo?

:applause: :applause: :applause:
That's the first part of the name, but it's not yet completed.
You have 24h to find the correct designation!
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Post by: jotage21 on October 17, 2009, 01:27:21 PM: Otto Grossweile Ogo?
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Post by: Allemano on October 17, 2009, 02:23:07 PM: Otto Großweiler is the name of the builder, but not the name of the car..
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Post by: Allemano on October 19, 2009, 09:18:32 AM: I gave jotage21 one point, but give another to the one who tells me the complete name...
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Post by: pnegyesi on October 20, 2009, 05:19:01 AM: This is the Ogo Phantom, made by Otto Gossweiler in Effretikon, Switzerland. It was shown at the 1971 Geneva Show among other "self-made" cars. The guy was 27 at that time. It was powered by a 7-liter Chevy Coevette V8-engine.
It took about 4000 hours to complete this prototype which costed about CHF 20,000 to make. Body is made of plastic and it featured gullwing doors.
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Post by: Allemano on October 20, 2009, 05:28:07 AM: Fabulous! :applause: :applause:
What source do you have? I guess it's not from the internet.

Please PM me if it's too telltale...
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Post by: pnegyesi on October 20, 2009, 02:32:11 PM: AutoPuzzles and especially these obscure cars gave me the necessary push to return to an activity I did frequently about 10 years ago: browsing through old issues of Autocar, Automobil Revue and a couple of other magazines. It is quite time consuming, but right now I finally have a little time for such things. So the information above is from an 1971 issue of Automobil Revue. I'll scan a picture of the car tomorrow
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Post by: Allemano on October 20, 2009, 02:49:44 PM: Great
BTW: I have it from the 1970/71 issue of Automodelle Katalog
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Post by: pnegyesi on October 24, 2009, 07:52:41 AM: It took a bit longer than expected. Here's a scan from an article on home-made Swiss cars, which were shown at the 1971 Geneva Show. The article was published in the Automobil Revue, the cars were exhibited at the magazine's stand
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Post by: Allemano on October 24, 2009, 08:03:16 AM: Thank you so much! :)
Not a bad looking car IMHO!
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Post by: OGossweiler on March 13, 2013, 07:57:30 PM: Hi guys,

sorry to bring up this old and solved thread - but I guess I can add something interesting to it.

These are some very recent pics of the car:
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Post by: RayTheRat on March 13, 2013, 09:53:06 PM: Welcome, Herr Gossweiler. Are you the builder/owner of this car? It's a great eigenbau! Thanks for the updated photos!
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Post by: dzima1985 on March 14, 2013, 12:18:44 AM: You got my letter. :D Thank you for the wonderful pictures!
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Post by: OGossweiler on March 14, 2013, 03:41:40 AM: Thanks guys!

No, I'm not; I'm the builder's son. The current owner owns the car since '72 or '73; he's now "trying" to sell it (not really, he in fact wants to keep it; but he amassed so many speeding tickets with this thing that his relatives an wife want him to sell it). It stands in his showroom (he's a car dealer) with a price tag of CHF 70k. The car is in almost perfect condition, has no rust at all (can't rust, the chassis had been galvanized and the body is fiberglass...), and the Corvette-V8 runs great. The 2-speed PowerGlide had been replaced by a 3- or 4-speed auto from GM some time ago; don't know what type exactly. No clue about the mileage, but I guess it must be something between 100 and 200tkm (60 to 120 thousand miles).
The pics were shot by my mom with her mobile (sorry for the bad quality); my parents went to see the car a few weeks back. As she never saw it live before, she wanted to do this once. Now she's thinking about buying the thing back... ;D

Cheers, Oli
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 14, 2013, 05:07:21 PM: Thank you for these pics...it's truly a gorgeus car!
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Post by: OGossweiler on March 14, 2013, 05:23:17 PM: Grazie, Paul!

I'll try to make it to the place where it's located to shoot some more in the next months. And thinking about joining my mom to buy it back... :-)
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Post by: Allemano on March 15, 2013, 02:23:32 PM: Besten Dank Herr Gossweiler! :applause:

Truly a fantastic car though I have to admit I liked it a little more without those rear spoiler(s). But the roof mirrors are really spectacular! :)
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Post by: OGossweiler on March 27, 2013, 06:21:04 AM: Vielen Dank, Allemano! Ich vermute, Du bist aus den südlichen Süd-Deutschland und sprichst Allemannisch? :-)

I guess my dad wanted the car to look more 70ies-like by adding the spoilers and the lamellar stuff... Although I like the more classical form without them, I also like the different look they give the car in combination with the yellow color.
Btw, the car was white first; but after a dangerous incident with a truck on snow-covered streets, my dad re-painted the car in yellow.
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Post by: Allemano on March 28, 2013, 12:54:38 AM: Quote from: OGossweiler on March 27, 2013, 06:21:04 AM
Vielen Dank, Allemano! Ich vermute, Du bist aus den südlichen Süd-Deutschland und sprichst Allemannisch? :-)

I guess my dad wanted the car to look more 70ies-like by adding the spoilers and the lamellar stuff... Although I like the more classical form without them, I also like the different look they give the car in combination with the yellow color.
Btw, the car was white first; but after a dangerous incident with a truck on snow-covered streets, my dad re-painted the car in yellow.
Nein, das hat nichts mit 'allemannisch' zu tun. ;) Komme aus dem Pott!

Interisting! Though these old pics are black+white only I would have sworn that it's painted white. Yellow is a typical 'Opel colour' in my opinion, but it may be a bit safer in the white Alps of CH.

Thanks for your info!
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Post by: pastis_77 on April 11, 2014, 10:03:36 AM: hello everyone,
the ogo phantom is quite a nice and fast car - i drove it a few times.
it got new rims and new tires last week. the owner, my uncle, owns the car for over 40 years!
because he is too old and doesnt have his driving licence anymore, we would sell the ogo phantom.
just contact me, if you are interested.
the car is located in kreuzlingen, switzerland, at my parents place.

patrick
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Post by: Carnut on April 11, 2014, 10:33:04 AM: Certainly one of the nicest Eigenbaus.
Here are the builder's son's pictures resized to give a much better view of them:
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Post by: pastis_77 on April 19, 2014, 06:55:16 AM: some more pictures
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Post by: Paul Jaray on April 19, 2014, 07:34:41 AM: Grazie!
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Post by: OGossweiler on March 16, 2015, 08:52:21 PM: Hallo Patrik,

das Auto wurde letzten Herbst verkauft; richtig? Könntest Du rausfinden, an wen? Möchte meinen Kindern mal den Eigenbau ihres Grossvaters live zeigen...

Besten Dank & Gruss,
Oli
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Post by: dzima1985 on September 09, 2015, 07:32:27 AM: Rare car on the road -