Author Topic: Q572 - solved - 1957 Marsonetto Luciole Rallye (Read 2778 times)

Quiller · « **on:** August 03, 2009, 05:27:45 PM »

What's the make and model designation of this car?

Hubert · « **Reply #1 on:** August 05, 2009, 11:33:12 AM »

Lancia based ?

Quiller · « **Reply #2 on:** August 06, 2009, 09:18:23 AM »

Not Lancia ...

pnegyesi · « **Reply #3 on:** August 24, 2009, 01:23:01 AM »

Is this French from the mid-1950s?

pnegyesi · « **Reply #4 on:** August 24, 2009, 10:25:37 PM »

Can this be another Marsonetto, a cca 1956 model?

Here's a later model from them:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=6052.0

latham_f2 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 26, 2009, 04:52:08 PM »

Ford based?

Slightly remeniscent of a Tornado, but different in the headlight area.

Possibly a Watford Cheetah?

Quiller · « **Reply #6 on:** September 01, 2009, 12:49:51 PM »

Quote from: pnegyesi on August 24, 2009, 01:23:01 AM

Is this French from the mid-1950s?

~~(but not Marsonetto)~~

Carnut · « **Reply #7 on:** September 02, 2009, 05:21:31 AM »

I figured with those wheels it had to be French.. Looks very Panhard-esque but have trawled through all my books and can't find anything. I know I have a picture of it somewhere but where to find it...!

Quiller · « **Reply #8 on:** September 22, 2009, 04:02:12 PM »

Have at it experts......

shamrock · « **Reply #9 on:** September 22, 2009, 04:14:14 PM »

4cv Berlinette Izoard Pichon - Parat , based on a Renault 4cv , 1955.

Quiller · « **Reply #10 on:** September 22, 2009, 04:56:39 PM »

That's not the name I have...

pguillem · « **Reply #11 on:** September 22, 2009, 09:39:27 PM »

1953 Panhard Dyna X by Chapron ?

pguillem · « **Reply #12 on:** September 23, 2009, 11:32:47 AM »

Second guess (my best) : Panhard Luciole by Marsonetto ?

Quiller · « **Reply #13 on:** September 23, 2009, 12:20:56 PM »

Ahhh... some more research at my end has uncovered that this is indeed a Marsonetto, as pnegyesi and pguillem have both suggested, so apologies for putting you off the scent. Pguillem - your guess is closest but not 100% there.

I will therefore lock the puzzle for 48 hours for either pnegyesi or pguillem to come back with another try

pnegyesi · « **Reply #14 on:** September 23, 2009, 12:45:59 PM »

Marsonetto Luciole Rallye with Panhard Dyna engine from 1957 - according to Rene Bellu's book

pguillem · « **Reply #15 on:** September 23, 2009, 02:17:14 PM »

Ohh, the difference of timezones. I'm at my office and can't do much research. Hooray for pnyegesi anyway !

Quiller · « **Reply #16 on:** September 24, 2009, 08:56:17 AM »

That's correct, well done. Although it could be 4CV engined as well - Marsonetto offered the same body with either engine

DynaMike · « **Reply #17 on:** September 24, 2009, 11:06:57 AM »

...but I guess that the Marsonetto with Renault 4CV engine also would have had Renault wheels... And these are Panhard wheel for sure

Quiller · « **Reply #18 on:** September 24, 2009, 02:17:44 PM »

Here are two together

faksta · « **Reply #19 on:** September 25, 2009, 04:08:38 AM »

Quote from: DynaMike on September 24, 2009, 11:06:57 AM

...but I guess that the Marsonetto with Renault 4CV engine also would have had Renault wheels... And these are Panhard wheel for sure

I'd say these are 4CV wheels

DynaMike · « **Reply #20 on:** September 25, 2009, 04:42:56 AM »

They do look rather similar, both consisting of an inner and an outer part, kept together by five bolts. But the inner part of the 4CV wheels is smaller, covering even smaller brake drums, about the same size as the hubcaps. On the Panhard Dyna wheels the outer part is fixed directly to the much bigger brake drums (well visible on the left car, above), only covered usually by the hubcaps.

faksta · « **Reply #21 on:** September 25, 2009, 06:34:25 AM »

Thanks for the explanation then

grobmotorix · « **Reply #22 on:** October 06, 2017, 01:45:35 PM »

No visible puzzle photo.

The puzzle car with the Renault 4CV-style wheels is the model LUXE.

The Rallye was the car with the flash on the sides and the Panhard-style wheels.

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Author Topic: Q572 - solved - 1957 Marsonetto Luciole Rallye (Read 2778 times)

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