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Solved - NTM #13: Namesakes
« on: May 16, 2009, 06:08:09 PM »
Sometimes two unrelated makes coincidentally have the same name... and most of the time the best-known one isn't the one that comes first.

The first set of cars (A1-A8) includes examples of makes that most of you should recognize pretty easily.

The second set of cars (B1-B8) includes ones that aren't quite as well-known. Each of these cars has exactly the same make name as one of the cars in the first set, and each one came before its namesake historically.

Match a car from the first set with its namesake from the second set, and tell me what the shared make name is. At the end, 8 points will be rewarded, one for each match.
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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2009, 06:10:19 PM »
Here's the second set:
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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2009, 03:49:59 AM »
Hey, between you and Otto with "Buy this car", you've rejuvanated the group puzzles, and it's music to my ears.
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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2009, 11:39:47 AM »
Movin' on up to Experts.
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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2009, 04:53:21 PM »
A1 and B1 both Morgan
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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2009, 08:02:52 PM »
Incorrect.
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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2009, 08:01:00 AM »
A2 - B1: Both cars are Kaiser; the first from USA (maybe Custom, DeLuxe or Manhattan), and the second is from Germany, known as the "Cheapest three-wheeler car in the World".

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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2009, 08:04:27 AM »
Yes!!
« Last Edit: May 29, 2009, 08:02:15 AM by ftg3plus4 »
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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2009, 08:08:14 AM »
A7 - B3 Both cars are Gaylord. The first car is Jim and Ed Gaylords dream car from 1955, designed by Brooks Stevens. The second car is a 1911 Gaylord 30, from the Gaylord Motor Company, Gaylord, Michigan.

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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2009, 08:13:30 AM »
Dude, you're on fire today!
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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2009, 08:31:37 AM »
A4 - B2 Triumph The first is a Triumph Dolomite, the second is a Triumph Electric Car from Chicago.

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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2009, 08:34:53 AM »
Incorrect.
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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2009, 10:09:10 PM »
A5 ( 1935 Austin Light 12/6 with Ascot body) with B7 ( American Austin Touring ).

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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2009, 10:41:34 PM »
A6 ( 1938 Pontiac Deluxe 2 door sedan ) with B2 ( Pontiac Buggy Company High Wheeler).

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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2009, 08:08:42 AM »
Correct on both counts!
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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2009, 05:49:21 PM »
A8 ( Davis 3 wheeler 1948 ) with B6 ( George W. DAVIS Motor Car touring )

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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2009, 06:10:47 PM »
One more for you!

5 down, 3 to go...

P.S.: Note that, even if someone happens to guess the first make correctly, I am not counting it unless they also get its match.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2009, 02:02:37 PM by ftg3plus4 »
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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2009, 01:52:36 PM »
A4 ( 1937 Triumph Dolomite Roadster ) with B8 (1907 Triumph Model A Runabout )

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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2009, 01:56:13 PM »
A3 ( 1938 DeSoto Sedan ) with B5 (1913 de Soto Six 55 )

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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2009, 02:03:52 PM »
Good work! Anyone know the last one now?

A1 / B4 - Morgan (D-type)
A2 / B1 - Kaiser (alecwolf)
A3 / B5 - DeSoto (Joćo)
A4 / B8 - Triumph (Joćo)
A5 / B7 - Austin (Joćo)
A6 / B2 - Pontiac  (Joćo)
A7 / B3 - Gaylord (alecwolf)
A8 / B6 - Davis (Joćo)
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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2009, 05:23:19 PM »
By elimination, A1 and B4 must both be Morgans - but I have to confess that I have never heard of a Morgan other than the Malvern product
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Re: NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2009, 06:00:55 PM »
That's OK.

There was a Morgan from Germany (1924-25) with an unusual "diamond" wheel layout. Apparently this is what gilescooperuk thought B1 was.

The Morgan in B4 was made about 1905-06 in the UK (though my pic is a "1907" model). There were only about 5 made.
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Re: Solved - NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2009, 05:58:38 PM »
 ::) A totally undeserved point

But it justifies my signature  ;)
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Re: Solved - NTM #13: Namesakes
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2013, 08:19:32 AM »
In case anyone is interested: Here is an actual photograph of the 1913 De Soto Six. (This is the only image I've seen of the car besides the easy-to-find ad drawing I originally posted.)
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel