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Q583 - solved - 1930 Valier Heylandt rocket car
« on: August 10, 2009, 09:27:02 AM »
What's the make and model designation of this car?
« Last Edit: September 29, 2020, 02:40:13 PM by Carnut »

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Re: Q583
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2009, 12:43:57 PM »
Expertos?

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Re: Q583
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2009, 05:21:39 PM »
I love that one.
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Re: Q583
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2009, 04:14:20 AM »
Is the car being followed bY a UFO?
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Re: Q583
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2009, 07:09:29 PM »
Or maybe ectoplasm...

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Re: Q583
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2009, 10:01:19 AM »
ą1930 Liquid oxygen car, built by Dr. Paul Heylandt, German liquid air expert, and Max Valier

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Re: Q583
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2009, 04:11:55 PM »
Yes!!

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Re: Q583 - solved - 1930 Valier Heylandt rocket car
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2013, 06:27:46 AM »
The car was also known as Rak 7. Max Valier and Dr. Paul Heylandt standing next to it in the picture below, while Rak 7 is being filled up with liquid oxygen.

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Re: Q583 - solved - 1930 Valier Heylandt rocket car
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2013, 11:42:21 AM »
Better add the name RAK 7, because RAK 6 has looked very similar:
« Last Edit: November 04, 2013, 11:45:53 AM by grobmotorix »

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Re: Q583 - solved - 1930 Valier Heylandt rocket car
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2013, 03:43:29 PM »
Rak 6 had was propelled by evaporating fluid carbonic acid. Rak 7 was the same car, but with a different engine, a rocket engine using liquid oxygen.

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Re: Q583 - solved - 1930 Valier Heylandt rocket car
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2020, 01:24:03 PM »
Just for fun - while driving to Modena Motor Gallery 2020 I recently came across the Max Valier Str. that did appear on my navigation by chance.
Now after my holidays I checked it and it is indeed "our" Max Valier.

No visible puzzle pic any more, btw...

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Re: Q583 - solved - 1930 Valier Heylandt rocket car
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2020, 02:40:44 PM »
No visible puzzle pic any more, btw...

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Re: Q583 - solved - 1930 Valier Heylandt rocket car
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2020, 04:32:39 PM »
Liquid oxygen is a useful but dangerous substance, but what fuel did it oxidise in its rocket motor?
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Re: Q583 - solved - 1930 Valier Heylandt rocket car
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2020, 08:57:35 AM »
It was definitly dangerous and Max Valier died from an explosion.
He is considered to be the first death toll from space technology.

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Re: Q583 - solved - 1930 Valier Heylandt rocket car
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2021, 06:03:35 AM »
A Max Valier presentation in Aconcagua, Argentina

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Re: Q583 - solved - 1930 Valier Heylandt rocket car
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2021, 10:47:00 AM »
A Max Valier presentation in Aconcagua, Argentina
This photo was definitly shot at the AVUS race track (Berlin, Germany) in 1930
I am quite sure, that Mr. Valier never has visited South America.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2021, 10:49:43 AM by grobmotorix »

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Re: Q583 - solved - 1930 Valier Heylandt rocket car
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2021, 11:07:34 AM »
Archivo Nacional de Argentina has it tagged as the picture was taken in Aconcagua, Argentina. I can't assure if it's truth

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Re: Q583 - solved - 1930 Valier Heylandt rocket car
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2021, 11:59:54 AM »
Things are getting mixed up here. The original puzzle was about the Valier-Heylandt Rak 7.

Oguerrerob's and grobmotorix' pictures show the Valier Rak 6, basically the same car, but with a completely different engine.
The Rak 6 pictures were taken on December 19, 1929, at the Avus racetrack in Berlin.

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Re: Q583 - solved - 1930 Valier Heylandt rocket car
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2021, 12:41:51 PM »
Archivo Nacional de Argentina has it tagged as the picture was taken in Aconcagua, Argentina. I can't assure if it's truth

It isnīt... ;)

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Re: Q583 - solved - 1930 Valier Heylandt rocket car
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2021, 12:43:06 PM »
Things are getting mixed up here. The original puzzle was about the Valier-Heylandt Rak 7.

Oguerrerob's and grobmotorix' pictures show the Valier Rak 6, basically the same car, but with a completely different engine.
The Rak 6 pictures were taken on December 19, 1929, at the Avus racetrack in Berlin.

 Indeed - only I did not want to open that topic, too...

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Re: Q583 - solved - 1930 Valier Heylandt rocket car
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2021, 12:13:25 PM »
Good front end photo :)

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Re: Q583 - solved - 1930 Valier Heylandt rocket car
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2021, 12:36:37 PM »
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Re: Q583 - solved - 1930 Valier Heylandt rocket car
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2023, 03:51:45 PM »
An old picture showing it at display at the Deutsches Museum in Munich: