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Re: Q#26
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2008, 03:38:38 PM »
The 'source' for this has already been mentioned...

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Re: Q#26
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2008, 04:02:50 PM »
Oh sorry didn't read the whole topic...

Then I have to give up!  :'(



EDIT: There may be another way to get the essentials, but it takes a little time...
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Re: Q#26
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2008, 06:17:05 PM »
The designer of the Mini-based Sekura prototype was Scotsman Ray Innes of Innes Design, Castle Douglas, Kirkcudbrightshire.
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Re: Q#26
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2008, 03:35:55 AM »
How did you find out? Even the Ray Innes web site doesn't mention the car.  ???

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Re: Q#26
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2008, 03:37:25 PM »
The designer of the Mini-based Sekura prototype was Scotsman Ray Innes of Innes Design, Castle Douglas, Kirkcudbrightshire.

Correct! Well done after a long time...

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Re: Q#26 - solved - Innes Design project for Sekura
« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2008, 04:37:30 PM »
How did you find out?

Remember that I said that I would expecting to return from my London trip with a treasure chest of new puzzles - apart from my Beaulieu encyclopedia? Well, there's a lot of other information in that treasure as well... ;)

Went through it all last night and there are at least 50 new puzzles there, most of which I think will stump most of you. There are interesting times ahead!
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Re: Q#26 - solved - Innes Design project for Sekura
« Reply #31 on: December 24, 2008, 01:54:10 PM »
Is a consequent history of this car/manufacturer available? There's nothin about it online :(

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Re: Q#26 - solved - Innes Design project for Sekura
« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2009, 02:47:56 PM »
Anyone? ???

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Re: Q#26 - solved - Innes Design project for Sekura
« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2009, 09:31:07 PM »
To saturate you in your relentless pursuit for any detail on every car I'll give you this from the October 1983 issue of Alternative Cars. I didn't really bother doing it at first, since it means writing it all down (not copy+paste), but whatever. Hope you appreciate it - here it is:

"FLYING SCOTSMAN

Readers with long memories may recall a letter printed in the Feb/March 1982 issue of AC from Scotsman Ray Innes (I've got that issue as well, but this article contains far more information). It concerned a little Mini-based prototype being built for the Danish firm Sekura and at that time the car was nothing more than a scale model and some good intentions. Well, the car has now been completed and is a running full-scale vehicle.

Just to recap, the project was a feasibility study in "modular" design and Ray wanted to see what sort of shape he could achieve using simple geometric lines and flat panels. In fact, the proportions of the finished article are surprisingly good, and more than a few eyebrows were raised at the striking similarities between this and the Hustler Sport. Both cars were designed at around the same time and it transpires that while Ray was working at Rover Triumph he had to deal with a certain design consultant by the name of William Towns. Great minds... In any event, Ray's car has created a lot of interest and pleased the Danish sponsors.

Innes Design has had enormous experience in the design of tractor cabs for a number of European firms and Ford of Detroit have also been customers at one points. Would you believe that tractors are now often fitted with things like orthopaedic seats and air conditioning? Anyway, much of the experience gained in this field has been transferred to the Innes car and it must be said that the tractor cab ethos has influenced the car's shape to a considerable degree.

Very heavy steel tubing was used for the frame which is of Ray's own design and construction. The whole thing was sent to Denmark to be finished in a mixture of steel and glassfibre. A "bathtub" floorpan and steel bulkheads impart the design with great rigidity and the bonnet, rear section and separate lower panel are all in GRP which looks to be of extremely high quality. Flat glass panels have been used throughout to emphasise the fact that this is essentially an exercise in straight-line aesthetics and the effect is quite commendable. It is also a functional design with upward-hingeing doors and a pivoting lift-out roof section. Details like the moulded-in rear view mirror and professional interior trim have been given the greatest attention and the result is a car of exceptionally high standards overall.

Ray Innes has been surprised at how easily the Mini components have been incorporated into the design: every part has fitted into place with the greatest simplicity. Because of the use of some very substantial componentry the Innes car weighs about the same as a Mini Clubman estate - light enough, but a little heavier than was originally planned.

So, where does it all go from here? The car pictured here is to be evaluated by its Danish backers before being returned to Ray Innes and it's then that the opportunities will present themselves. Such interest has been provoked by the little one-off that thoughts of productionising it as a kit car have crept into Ray's head. He does have other automotive products in the pipeline, but there are plans to build a technically more advanced version of this car with a centrally-mounted engine and a more "organic" shape - and it is this car which is expected to form the basis of a production vehicle. It's simply a question of waiting... If of course your curiosity gets the better of you then you can contact Innes Design at 6 Church Road, Auchencairn, Castle Douglas, Kirkcudbrightshire."

Transcript from Alternative Cars, October 1983.
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Re: Q#26 - solved - Innes Design project for Sekura
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2009, 12:11:30 AM »
That's superb! Thank You!

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Re: Q#26 - solved - Innes Design project for Sekura
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2014, 12:16:00 PM »
I have just found these color photos! :)

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Re: Q#26 - solved - Innes Design project for Sekura
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2014, 01:00:18 PM »
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Re: Q#26 - solved - Innes Design project for Sekura
« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2018, 08:57:05 AM »
An image showing the condition of the car in 2013, and a shot of the bare chassis:

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Re: Q#26 - solved - Innes Design project for Sekura
« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2018, 09:16:22 AM »
An image showing the condition of the car in 2013, and a shot of the bare chassis:
This car is saved currently under restoration!

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Re: Q#26 - solved - Innes Design project for Sekura
« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2018, 10:52:52 AM »
An image showing the condition of the car in 2013, and a shot of the bare chassis:
This car is saved currently under restoration!
Thank you for the update Arunas.  Do you know where the car is now (e.g. the UK, Denmark?). Thanks.
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