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Solved als_11 - Find the connection - fathers & sons
« on: October 28, 2009, 04:59:20 PM »
I'm not asking you to name cars and models because it would be quite obvious. I'm also not asking you to do the right matches between the first and the second group. The right answer is to this question: which is the connection that links each of the first group car to another of the second?
Feel free to write down the matches you guesses and I'll tell you wether they are correct or not, but consider that it will not worth you any point and, on the contrary, will help other people in finding the right answer...  ;D


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Re: als_11 - Find the connection
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2009, 05:01:40 PM »
Second group:


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Re: als_11 - Find the connection
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2009, 09:02:37 PM »
hemi heads on all those cars?
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Re: als_11 - Find the connection
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2009, 03:57:53 AM »
No, sorry. There is a connection which links one-to-one the first and the second group.
A clue: we are not talking about mechanichs.  ;)

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Re: als_11 - Find the connection
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2009, 04:06:39 AM »
Clarify, please: Each car from the first group is connected with only one car in the second group?
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Re: als_11 - Find the connection
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2009, 04:17:17 AM »
Yes: each one of the first group is linked to one (only one) of the second. Six pairs. The link is always the same; I mean: the same logic.

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Re: als_11 - Find the connection
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2009, 11:28:53 PM »
Well   we have 2 Michelotti cars in the first group  the BMW 700 and the Abarth 2200 Allemano..

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Re: als_11 - Find the connection
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2009, 05:04:52 AM »
I actually don't see the any Abarth in the first group... and however the connection has to be found between each car of the first with another of the second. If perhaps there is any connection among cars of the same group, it's simply by chance and meaningless for this puzzle solution.
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Re: als_11 - Find the connection
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2009, 05:12:55 AM »
No very good guesses form the Rookies, so up to Experts!  ;D

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Re: als_11 - Find the connection
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2009, 05:39:15 AM »
Same designer? Like Fiat Uno (2) was designed by Giorgio Giugiaro, who also designed that ItalDesigned concept car (f)
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Re: als_11 - Find the connection
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2009, 05:41:25 AM »
2-F Correct pairing. Let's work on the connection...  ;)

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Re: als_11 - Find the connection
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2009, 05:43:00 AM »
Is not about the designer?
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Re: als_11 - Find the connection
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2009, 05:52:45 AM »
In a certain way, yes... But I'm not just meaning "stylists".
At least a couple of other pairs should be quite easy and the connection is always the same. You don't need to be sure about the 6 of them before doing your guess...  ;)

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Re: als_11 - Find the connection
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2009, 12:54:34 PM »
This is hard!

The 2 most obvious connections for 2-F are for me:

- 1 car designed by the father, the 2nd by the son.
- Designs coming from the same design house.

But neither of these 2 connections can be used to link other pairs.    ???

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Re: als_11 - Find the connection
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2009, 01:07:55 PM »
Outstanding! The first guess and you have won the point!  :applause: :applause: :applause:

Let's go through the pairs:

1-D BMW 700 by Giovanni Michelotti & Fiat Argenta by Edgardo Michelotti
2-F Fiat Uno by Giorgetto Giugiaro & Alfa-Romeo Scighera by Fabrizio Giugiaro
3-B Fiat 1100 Mille Miglia by Ugo Zagato & Alfa-Romeo SZ by Elio Zagato
4-E Fiat 1500 Cabriolet Ghia by Felice Mario Boano & Fiat 850 Coupé by Gian Paolo Boano
5-C Chrysler 300 C by Virgil Exner & Simca Special Ghia by Virgil Exner Jr.
6-A Fiat 600 Coupé by Domenico Giannini & OTAS Tigre by Franco Giannini

Actually these people aren't exactly the designer, but they are the one who "did" somehow the car.


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Re: als_11 - Find the connection
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2009, 01:16:31 PM »
Outstanding! The first guess and you have won the point!  :applause: :applause: :applause:

Let's go through the pairs:

1-D BMW 700 by Giovanni Michelotti & Fiat Argenta by Edgardo Michelotti
2-F Fiat Uno by Giorgetto Giugiaro & Alfa-Romeo Scighera by Fabrizio Giugiaro
3-B Fiat 1100 Mille Miglia by Ugo Zagato & Alfa-Romeo SZ by Elio Zagato
4-E Fiat 1500 Cabriolet Ghia by Felice Mario Boano & Fiat 850 Coupé by Gian Paolo Boano
5-C Chrysler 300 C by Virgil Exner & Simca Special Ghia by Virgil Exner Jr.
6-A Fiat 600 Coupé by Domenico Giannini & OTAS Tigre by Franco Giannini

Actually these people aren't exactly the designer, but they are the one who "did" somehow the car.



The Alfa Romeo SZ is not a Zagato design but a Centro Stile Fiat design (Design by Robert Opron)  The Centro Stile Alfa Romeo proposal and the Zagato proposal were rejected in favour of the Centro Stile Fiat one...

I have car 3 as a  Siata Gran Sport Zagato 750 cc, not as a Fiat?
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Re: Solved als_11 - Find the connection - fathers & sons
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2009, 01:20:38 PM »
Actually also the 2 Gianninis aren't by Giannini: the 600 is by Pietro Frua and the Tigre by Pio Manzł, but as I said I was referring to the person who "did" the car, not strictly styled it. However, you are right, for Zagato I could have chosen a better sample...  :-[

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Re: als_11 - Find the connection
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2009, 04:41:36 PM »
Outstanding! The first guess and you have won the point!  :applause: :applause: :applause:

Let's go through the pairs:

1-D BMW 700 by Giovanni Michelotti & Fiat Argenta by Edgardo Michelotti
2-F Fiat Uno by Giorgetto Giugiaro & Alfa-Romeo Scighera by Fabrizio Giugiaro
3-B Fiat 1100 Mille Miglia by Ugo Zagato & Alfa-Romeo SZ by Elio Zagato
4-E Fiat 1500 Cabriolet Ghia by Felice Mario Boano & Fiat 850 Coupé by Gian Paolo Boano
5-C Chrysler 300 C by Virgil Exner & Simca Special Ghia by Virgil Exner Jr.
6-A Fiat 600 Coupé by Domenico Giannini & OTAS Tigre by Franco Giannini

Actually these people aren't exactly the designer, but they are the one who "did" somehow the car.



The Alfa Romeo SZ is not a Zagato design but a Centro Stile Fiat design (Design by Robert Opron)  The Centro Stile Alfa Romeo proposal and the Zagato proposal were rejected in favour of the Centro Stile Fiat one...

I have car 3 as a  Siata Gran Sport Zagato 750 cc, not as a Fiat?
Siata 750 sport zagato is correct ... not a 1100..

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Re: Solved als_11 - Find the connection - fathers & sons
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2009, 03:06:32 AM »
Yes: it's actually a Siata 750 based on a Fiat 500 "Topolino", not a 1100.  :-[