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Solved - NEH 100: Multiplex 186 Swallow 1954 (Cisitalia 202 lookalike)
« on: November 24, 2009, 03:20:55 PM »
What's this, who built it and when?
1 point if you can answer correctly...
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Re: NEH 100
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2009, 03:34:13 PM »
This one is not a repost.  ;)
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Re: NEH 100
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2009, 05:50:50 PM »
Quote from: Paul Jaray on November 24, 2009, 03:34:13 PM
This one is not a repost.  ;)

You know exactly what I was expecting the first reply to say, don't  you PJ?!
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Re: NEH 100
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2009, 04:34:14 AM »
Cisitalia from 1949??
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Re: NEH 100
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2009, 07:39:06 AM »
Quote from: del78 on November 25, 2009, 04:34:14 AM
Cisitalia from 1949??

That's the reply I expected first!
This car has nothing at all to do with Cisitalia (apart from looking almost identical to a Cisitalia 202, that is!)
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Re: NEH 100
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2009, 06:45:16 AM »
Quote from: Paul Jaray on November 24, 2009, 03:34:13 PM
This one is not a repost.  ;)

Well, technically, anyway.  ;)
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Re: NEH 100
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2009, 07:06:42 AM »
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on November 27, 2009, 06:45:16 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on November 24, 2009, 03:34:13 PM
This one is not a repost.  ;)

Well, technically, anyway.  ;)

You mean it has been pictured before?
Can you PM me with a clue to where it is Otto?!
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Re: NEH 100
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2009, 07:20:41 AM »
@Carnut:clear Your inbox  ;)
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Re: NEH 100
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2009, 08:21:04 AM »
Link sent to e-mail.
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Re: NEH 100
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2009, 08:42:38 AM »
Quote from: Arunas on November 27, 2009, 07:20:41 AM
@Carnut:clear Your inbox  ;)

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Re: NEH 100
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2009, 09:44:17 AM »
Built in the early nineties by the Atlas/Allied Fiberglass Company in Southern California, it was simply called the Allied Coupe.
Heavy-duty tube frame built to hold an American V-8.  The one I have seen pictures of had a motor from an Olds Rocket 88 in it.
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Re: NEH 100
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2009, 09:47:12 AM »
Although there was an Atlas Allied Coupe Cisitalia replica this car is actually not one, although it was developed from it.
It is slightly later and has a completely different name and builder.
I need those facts for you to get your point!
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Re: NEH 100
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2009, 05:01:26 PM »
Actually, the exact picture you are using is also on this website:
http://www.link-deleted.com

Here, a guy named Daniel Crispen who claims the picture is 20 years old, also claimed it to be a "Multiplex 186" built 1952-4. It was supposedly raced and later shown at the 1954 New York Automotive Show.
Check it out.
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Re: NEH 100
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2009, 05:32:04 PM »
remeber the rule about posting links....
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Re: NEH 100
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2009, 06:41:16 PM »
You're there Tackitt, as I think that's the site I got this picture from (but as Paul Jaray says you are NOT supposed to post links; everyone has to find their own!).

So this particular car was, as I said, made slightly later than the Allied/Atlas cars by Multiplex Manufacturing Co (who made other cars too, which have already featured in other puzzles on this site).

I have seen this car mentioned elsewhere too and it's generally called a Multiplex Swallow (which sounds nicer than a '186'!) so that's what I am going to call it.

1 point for you anyway.
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Re: Solved - NEH 100: Multiplex Swallow 1954 (Cisitalia 202 lookalike)
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2009, 05:15:06 AM »
The site you had quoted (link since deleted) links backward to a page identifying this as an Allied car. I think the text about it being built at Multiplex is a reference to where the car was assembled, and the engine fitted. The site states:

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"This car was mentioned on the page discussing Darren Crispin's Allied bodied Specials.   I don't have a lot of infor- mation on this car which I gather is a Doretti with an Allied body, created by Bill Binney.   

I don't if this one will ever be truly solved.  :P
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Re: Solved - NEH 100: Multiplex Swallow 1954 (Cisitalia 202 lookalike)
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2009, 05:36:25 AM »
I believe this is a Multiplex 186, and here's what comes with this pic from the web.
I have a pic of a Multiplex 186 roadster, and it's just like this (hardtop excluded of course).

( we also had this http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=cc0a270d6e0c3a1f40d5255d29e1c224&topic=5729.0)
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Re: Solved - NEH 100: Multiplex Swallow 1954 (Cisitalia 202 lookalike)
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2009, 06:03:52 AM »
Yep - saw that. The page on that site that brings you to that picture and article casts some doubt, in my mind.

I've sent you a PM.
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