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Puzzle #1117 - Solved! 1905 Rational Limousine
« on: December 21, 2008, 02:08:58 AM »


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Re: Puzzle #1117
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2009, 02:50:18 PM »
Hi, this is a Rational 10 HP Limousine by Sanders from 1905
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Re: Puzzle #1117
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2009, 11:19:32 AM »
are you sure?
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Re: Puzzle #1117
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2009, 11:45:14 AM »
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2009, 02:50:18 PM
Hi, this is a Rational 10 HP Limousine by Sanders from 1905

Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2009, 11:19:32 AM
are you sure?

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Re: Puzzle #1117
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2009, 11:47:28 AM »
Which one of us?
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Re: Puzzle #1117
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2009, 03:19:55 AM »
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Solved NIC'#1276 - 1905 Rational 10hp
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2020, 07:38:19 AM »
Year make and model required.
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Re: NIC#1276
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2020, 07:05:01 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NIC#1276
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2020, 08:43:08 AM »
Rational 10hp 1905, Ralph E. Sanders & Sons, Hitchin, Hertfortshire, UK
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Re: NIC#1276
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2020, 08:53:13 AM »
Quote from: fromwien on December 06, 2020, 08:43:08 AM
Rational 10hp 1905, Ralph E. Sanders & Sons, Hitchin, Hertfortshire, UK

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Re: Solved NIC'#1276 - 1905 Rational 10hp
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2020, 09:35:44 AM »
I thank you for the point, but I felt unsure, when I posted my answer to you.
It is a Rational 10 HP for sure, but most of the sources say 'Heatley-Gresham Engineering Co. Ltd.', Royston (Hertfordshire) is the manufacturer...
Is 'Ralph E. Sanders & Sons', Hitchin, Hertfortshire, UK, only the coachbuilder?

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Re: Solved NIC'#1276 - 1905 Rational 10hp
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2020, 11:14:23 AM »
Quote from: fromwien on December 06, 2020, 09:35:44 AM
I thank you for the point, but I felt unsure, when I posted my answer to you.
It is a Rational 10 HP for sure, but most of the sources say 'Heatley-Gresham Engineering Co. Ltd.', Royston (Hertfordshire) is the manufacturer...
Is 'Ralph E. Sanders & Sons', Hitchin, Hertfortshire, UK, only the coachbuilder?

Two pictures attached

This puzzle car is mentioned in the Beaulieu Encyclopedia as just one bodied by Sanders. Other coachbuilders were used. Heatley-Gresham were definitely the manufacturers.
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Re: Solved NIC'#1276 - 1905 Rational 10hp
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2020, 11:48:25 AM »
Yes Heatly Gresham of Royston, which in 1904 became the first industrial concern in Letchworth Garden City, made the Rational cars.
Ralph E Sanders & Sons of Hitchin was indeed a coachbuilder and built bodies for Rational Taxicabs as well as normal cars.

Small world comment: I knew a Robert Sanders  who was a member of that family at school and met James Gresham, grandson of the founder, when he gave a talk to the VCC on contemporary racing tyres.
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Re: Solved NIC'#1276 - 1905 Rational 10hp
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2020, 02:35:45 PM »
Thank you for additional informations, which exactly coincides with my assumptions
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Re: Puzzle #1117 - Solved! 1905 Rational Limousine
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2023, 08:32:41 PM »
Merged.
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