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Re: Factory vs Specials
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Reply #25 on:
September 30, 2009, 02:55:38 PM »
Yes!
Here I must correct myself as the 'factory' car is indeed a special - Monopole - Panhard X84 from 1950. In Le Mans results some Panhard engined cars are recorded under their proper names, but some are still 'Panhard Dyna'. I have found out that this one was an X84, but didn't look deep enough to realize it was actually a Monopole. So here we eventually have a pair of two specials, sorry
Nevertheless, two pairs are left.
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Re: Factory vs Specials
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Reply #26 on:
October 03, 2009, 01:57:10 AM »
I can do the pairing:
fc04 is a Lancia, probably Aurelia and sc09 is a Lancia-based special probably from Germany
fc03 is an Osca S750 from the 1957 Millie Miglia and sc07 is an OSCA-engined special.
So anyone would like to finish this
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Re: Factory vs Specials
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Reply #27 on:
October 03, 2009, 02:26:04 PM »
Well, that's mostly right, but sc09 is not from Germany. Still this is not yet enough to award you the points, sorry - we need the specials names (for sc07 I have only the inventors name, possibly the car has never had a 'proper' name).
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Re: Factory vs Specials
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Reply #28 on:
October 04, 2009, 12:40:55 PM »
sc09 is it from Poland?
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October 04, 2009, 12:52:53 PM »
Exactly.
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October 04, 2009, 12:55:59 PM »
Adam Małochleb?
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October 04, 2009, 01:00:57 PM »
No, not him. I'd say, more known.
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Re: Factory vs Specials
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October 04, 2009, 01:16:57 PM »
Marian Wierzba?
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October 04, 2009, 01:39:20 PM »
Not Wierzba also.
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Re: Factory vs Specials
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Reply #34 on:
October 04, 2009, 02:31:52 PM »
Julian Łączyński?
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Re: Factory vs Specials
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Reply #35 on:
October 04, 2009, 02:47:00 PM »
No, sorry, still no.
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Re: Factory vs Specials
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Reply #36 on:
October 04, 2009, 03:01:20 PM »
Well, if you tell me that the image is from the web,I will keep digging
As for the OSCA, I have a book on American specialist racing cars and another on British racing specials. I couldn't find either of them.
So can you give us some help? Is this image also from the web?
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Reply #37 on:
October 04, 2009, 03:28:23 PM »
Yes, both images are from the web, and even from the same place. OSCA special is neither American nor British, so don't waste your time looking through those books
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Re: Factory vs Specials
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Reply #38 on:
October 05, 2009, 02:13:29 AM »
I see that you built the majority of this puzzle from that "place". But still I couldn't find either the Lancia or the OSCA special there. Well, reluctantly I have to let this puzzle go
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Re: Factory vs Specials
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Reply #39 on:
October 05, 2009, 02:38:20 AM »
Actually only these two photos come from there
Summarizing it up:
fc04 - Lancia (which?) - sc09 - special from Poland (whose?)
fc03 - OSCA S750 - sc07 - special from European country (whose?)
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Re: Factory vs Specials
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Reply #40 on:
October 05, 2009, 04:09:03 AM »
Please, can you lock this topic for me for 3 hours?
fc04 is a Lancia D24, while SC09 is: #22 SAM-Lancia 1500 (Edward Wroclawski).
SAM in this case means a self-built car.
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Re: Factory vs Specials
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Reply #41 on:
October 05, 2009, 04:13:19 AM »
OK, I think it would be fair since you have almost found it all. I see you've found the source
Although you seem to be the only one in charge now.
Edward Wroclawski's SAM - Lancia 1500 is right, of course. As for Lancia itself, could you be more precise? You're extremely close, but it's not a D24.
Locked for 3 hours.
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Re: Factory vs Specials
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Reply #42 on:
October 05, 2009, 04:16:54 AM »
Lancia may be a D23, I am not a big expert on Lancia...
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Re: Factory vs Specials
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Reply #43 on:
October 05, 2009, 04:17:56 AM »
D23 it is. Confusion is understandable - they're so similar
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Re: Factory vs Specials
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Reply #44 on:
October 05, 2009, 04:30:34 AM »
That is sorted. Great.
Can't find the OSCA though. Is this an Italian special?
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Re: Factory vs Specials
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Reply #45 on:
October 05, 2009, 04:41:25 AM »
No, it is not Italian. It is from a country where their domestic donor cars were far more popular than Italian ones.
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Re: Factory vs Specials
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Reply #46 on:
October 05, 2009, 05:54:50 AM »
Boy, it is easy when you know where you have to look!
This is Wolfgang Seidel's specialbodied OSCA MT4
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Re: Factory vs Specials
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Reply #47 on:
October 05, 2009, 06:04:16 AM »
Yes, done!
Now form a line for the points, gentlemen.
Points awarded.
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