Author Topic: Solved - QUIZ - Godefroy & Lévêque Type B2 Super 1917 (Read 4519 times)

Paul Jaray · « **on:** September 30, 2007, 03:43:51 PM »

Hy guys...what is that?

Allan L · « **Reply #1 on:** October 01, 2007, 11:20:27 AM »

Twombly cyclecar, perhaps?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #2 on:** October 01, 2007, 12:36:41 PM »

Cyclecar....yes
twombly...no!

Allan L · « **Reply #3 on:** November 19, 2007, 05:33:21 AM »

That's the Super cyclecar, manufactured by the Leveque brothers in Asnieres, France from 1912-14.
Twin cylinder 964cc engine.
Leveque drove a Super into 4th place in the 1923 Cyclecar Grand Prix at Amiens

pieter · « **Reply #4 on:** November 19, 2007, 06:26:45 AM »

I think having a petrol tank for a headrest is one thing, but spare a thought for the poor passenger who had to sniff the fumes the whole time...

@re · « **Reply #5 on:** November 19, 2007, 08:51:29 AM »

No smoking in the back of this then, probably.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #6 on:** November 19, 2007, 11:50:52 AM »

You got it...but which is the full name of this car?

Allan L · « **Reply #7 on:** November 20, 2007, 03:50:28 AM »

Quote from: PAUL JARAY on November 19, 2007, 11:50:52 AM

You got it...but which is the full name of this car?

I don't think there was a full name: perhaps when it was on show in Essen the owner called it something more, but I wasn't there and my informant didn't say.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #8 on:** November 21, 2007, 06:37:52 PM »

Ok, I found in 3 different sources that this car is made by one man together with Leveque and it is a super Cyclecar but there is also a model designation...and it should be from 1917...

Allan L · « **Reply #9 on:** November 22, 2007, 03:25:15 AM »

One of the Leveques worked with Godefroy to produce the Ruby, but so far as I am aware Godefroy was not involved with the Super.
The Super was in production from 1912-1914 after which the Great War would have stopped production - and it certainly would have by 1917
Super was in Asnieres, Seine and Ruby was the other side of the river at Levallois-Perret

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #10 on:** November 22, 2007, 04:43:20 AM »

I can only confirm that in one site this car is for sale and it's from 1917,in another one there is a wallpaper and once again same designation and same year....you are not far...

Allan L · « **Reply #11 on:** November 22, 2007, 06:33:53 AM »

I haven't seen it as 1917: you have to be careful as you will see from
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1202324718055369886QqbsiK

Where the title say 1928 Super Cyclecar and the photo shows the placard which (correctly) says 1911

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #12 on:** November 22, 2007, 11:28:51 AM »

Ok, I checked this out and I agree with you that there is something that seems wrong...I found another source that probably cleares a bit....once again there's something missing...yes it is a cyclecar...yes there is written Super on the radiator...yes there is Leveque involved.. Probably the owner added just one thing.....

Allan L · « **Reply #13 on:** November 22, 2007, 06:54:54 PM »

Godefroy et Leveque in Levallois made the Ruby, as I wrote before.
I have run out of knowledge (and reference books!).

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #14 on:** November 23, 2007, 02:37:39 PM »

Ok...you deserve the point...but have you tried to google Godefroy et Leveque together with super or cyclecar? I guess you'll find at least 3 valid results with the same name...

Allan L · « **Reply #15 on:** November 23, 2007, 04:38:11 PM »

Quote from: PAUL JARAY on November 23, 2007, 02:37:39 PM

Ok...you deserve the point...but have you tried to google Godefroy et Leveque together with super or cyclecar? I guess you'll find at least 3 valid results with the same name...

It all goes back to the Essen exhibition and the one car. I still doubt that it was made in time of war, but interesting that it was a Godefroy & Leveque Super, not Leveque Freres as most references tell us.

As I say:

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #16 on:** November 23, 2007, 05:00:39 PM »

I told you...you got the point because you spot the car...I left you the time to find out the name because you arrived just in front of it...if you search for Godfroy et Leveque Super Cyclecar you will find at least 3 sites where this car is called "Godefroy & Lévêque Type B2 Super" from 1917...but you were right..
SUPER: Leveque freres, Asnieres, Seine 1912-1914 "The Super cyclecar was made by Lévêque who was also responsible for the Ruby car and engine, although he was not apparently assisted by Godefroy in the making of the Super (....) It used a single-cylinder Anzani engine,tandem seating and belt drive"
RUBY: Godefroy et Leveque, Levallois-Perret, Seine 1910-1922 "(...) In 1912 there were six models, three singles and three 4-cylinder cars, from 6 to 12hp, all using friction transmission and chain final drive.."
That is what His Majesty G.N.Gerogano reports in his bible...it means that this car is a Ruby with a Super badge or a late exemplar of Super Cyclecar assembled when Super went out of business in the Godfroy et Leveque fabric....

DHoffmann · « **Reply #17 on:** September 06, 2008, 11:39:06 PM »

What's this?

1 point for the correct answer.

1 extra point up for grabs for who can tell me the exact engine size and maker.

Good luck!

Allan L · « **Reply #18 on:** September 07, 2008, 04:56:58 AM »

As I said when Paul Jaray set this one:

That's the Super cyclecar, manufactured by the Leveque brothers in Asnieres, France from 1912-14.
Twin cylinder 964cc engine.
Leveque drove a Super into 4th place in the 1923 Cyclecar Grand Prix at Amiens

DHoffmann · « **Reply #19 on:** September 07, 2008, 05:07:11 AM »

Quote from: Allan L on September 07, 2008, 04:56:58 AM

As I said when Paul Jaray set this one:

That's the Super cyclecar, manufactured by the Leveque brothers in Asnieres, France from 1912-14.
Twin cylinder 964cc engine.
Leveque drove a Super into 4th place in the 1923 Cyclecar Grand Prix at Amiens

Ah nuts...

Well, the engine's point still stands.